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Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by tpmx »

judge2020 wrote: post #49
tpmx wrote: post #47

I wish you success. I really like Dart and the concept of Flutter. However: I'm still waiting for a 100% Flutter-based iOS app published in the app store that I can try to make sure that it does not have any apparent jank. Yes, I know that Flutter 2.2 which launched a few days ago included tools designed to fight some of the sources of jank (e.g. bundling precompiled shaders) but after such a long time of promises fr…

I think google pay[0] is entirely flutter[1] (how much is actually flutter is unknown). It does seem pretty slow, actually - it’s like it only plays every third frame when animating switching between the app’s tabs. 0: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/google-pay-save-pay-manage/id1... 1: https://developers.googleblog.com/2020/09/google-pay-picks-f...

Here's a subthread about Flutter jank/performance from the 2.0 release back in March:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26333213

Back then at least one of the "featured" apps had key screens written in e.g. ObjC. Google Pay was also discussed.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by swyx »

sgt wrote: post #11
primitivesuave wrote: post #6

I'm genuinely curious how easy no-code app development has to become in order to be adopted at scale in the software industry. Right now I'm still getting the sense that most companies prefer to hire a dedicated app development team and have full control over the architecture.

Yes, you generally always run into something that the company building your low code tools will need to cater for or fix for you somehow. It gives you so much grief that you might as well write and own your tools.

its not a binary.. first of all there are tons of people who have software needs who just dont have that option. Whats the solution, hire you? you're expensive, and you have your own backlog to deal with. *they are bottlenecked by you*.

second of all flutterflow (and other code-exporting builders like webflow) generates code you can take over, so it can even be helpful to people who could code it themselves, all it has to do is save some substantial time, which as a UI builder myself a WYSIWYG tool always does.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by swyx »

asgreaves wrote: post #26

FlutterFlow cofounder here! We thought the HN crowd would want to see the generated code for FlutterMet, so here it is: https://github.com/FlutterFlow/FlutterMetSample/tree/flutter... We try to generate clean Flutter code that follows best practices – we have a long way to go, but we couldn't be more excited. Edit: Also, here's the video of us building it (in just under an hour): https://youtu.be/TXsjnd_4SBo

congrats on launch! just wondering since you're here - what is the roadmap now that you're launched and what key hires are you looking to make?

am always interested in how companies transition from a deep build phase into a build-and-market-what-you've-already-built phase.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by novok »

tpmx wrote: post #47

I wish you success. I really like Dart and the concept of Flutter. However: I'm still waiting for a 100% Flutter-based iOS app published in the app store that I can try to make sure that it does not have any apparent jank. Yes, I know that Flutter 2.2 which launched a few days ago included tools designed to fight some of the sources of jank (e.g. bundling precompiled shaders) but after such a long time of promises fr…

My current idea of how to do a non-javascript multi-platform app strategy:

Apple SwiftUI for iOS & macOS.

Flutter for Android, Windows, Linux and possibly a web client.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by iddan »

kiawe_fire wrote: post #40

Initially this looks really nice - very much the kind of tooling I’ve thought about for Flutter since I started using it. This product aside, though, I find it funny how the whole “reactive widget tree that gets rebuilt when data changes” and “everything is just nested objects with properties, no XML needed” trend felt like “backlash” against the UI Builders, Visual Basics, and Glades. And yet now we’re building visu…

I think UI builders are considered as good tools, it’s the XML that is “not needed”

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by tpmx »

novok wrote: post #54
tpmx wrote: post #47

I wish you success. I really like Dart and the concept of Flutter. However: I'm still waiting for a 100% Flutter-based iOS app published in the app store that I can try to make sure that it does not have any apparent jank. Yes, I know that Flutter 2.2 which launched a few days ago included tools designed to fight some of the sources of jank (e.g. bundling precompiled shaders) but after such a long time of promises fr…

My current idea of how to do a non-javascript multi-platform app strategy: Apple SwiftUI for iOS & macOS. Flutter for Android, Windows, Linux and possibly a web client.

That seems like a smart and pragmatic strategy. Thanks for sharing that idea!

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by treyhuffine »

asgreaves wrote: post #26

FlutterFlow cofounder here! We thought the HN crowd would want to see the generated code for FlutterMet, so here it is: https://github.com/FlutterFlow/FlutterMetSample/tree/flutter... We try to generate clean Flutter code that follows best practices – we have a long way to go, but we couldn't be more excited. Edit: Also, here's the video of us building it (in just under an hour): https://youtu.be/TXsjnd_4SBo

Love the product, this is incredible!

- Is it possible to set an API request header to include the Firebase ID token?

- Are you able to embed a webview on a page?

- Is there a pattern yet for in-app payments?

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by Artistry121 »

asgreaves wrote: post #26

FlutterFlow cofounder here! We thought the HN crowd would want to see the generated code for FlutterMet, so here it is: https://github.com/FlutterFlow/FlutterMetSample/tree/flutter... We try to generate clean Flutter code that follows best practices – we have a long way to go, but we couldn't be more excited. Edit: Also, here's the video of us building it (in just under an hour): https://youtu.be/TXsjnd_4SBo

Hello! Congratulations. How would I hire someone who knows how to use this and could guide me? I think I’d like to hire someone to build in this.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by rubyn00bie »

asgreaves wrote: post #26

FlutterFlow cofounder here! We thought the HN crowd would want to see the generated code for FlutterMet, so here it is: https://github.com/FlutterFlow/FlutterMetSample/tree/flutter... We try to generate clean Flutter code that follows best practices – we have a long way to go, but we couldn't be more excited. Edit: Also, here's the video of us building it (in just under an hour): https://youtu.be/TXsjnd_4SBo

Howdy! Are you planning on Desktop support for the UI builder? I was about to hand you all my money but it doesn't like it exists yet... or at least allow me to set custom dimensions on the editor/preview.

Also, does it support rendering/previewing custom widgets?

FWIW-- I've done a fair amount iOS development and loved IB (despite all the crashes and issues) for the easy visual editing; so, I'm primarily looking at this as a way to better visualize and layout my components (I personally don't need incredibly robust desktop support).

Thanks for the work on this it looks awesome.

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