300 miles of range unladen seems very low to me. When towing, this range will likely be cut by more than half. The truck is priced competitively, so it will make sense for "Regular daily driver, and occasionally I need to put something in the bed" truck owners, but definitely not "Tow my trailer to the mountains once a month" truck owners.
2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
#52I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.
Unfortunately compact pickups aren’t really a thing any more. As a homeowner and a parent this would be a great vehicle for me — having the utility of a truck bed. Not everyone that owns a home does work on it themselves but trucks are very useful. Today my only options are rent a truck or put a trailer hitch on my van and pull a trailer when I need to haul stuff. That’s so much more hassle.
This is a regulatory consequence, no?
My understanding was that classification meant there was a disincentive for manufacturers to build smaller trucks (fuel efficiency and/or emissions?).
Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
#53The F-150 is considered a heavy-duty truck, I think the Ford brand and advertising would help
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#54This will electrify a lot of fleet vehicles when people see the lower maintenance and input costs.
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#55It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.
Don't forget that electric vehicles are almost silent.
Most car noise comes from the wheels, at speed, on highways.
Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
#56I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.
The proportion of pickup trucks (especially the light duty ones) that are purchased as "lifestyle" products rather than for utility use is probably significantly higher than 80%, if that were measured honestly.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait, so you're against cars? I am confused as to what any of that has to do with the new electric F-150.
EVs are heavier by nature (this vehicle’s battery pack alone is ~1800 lbs). Your average driver is not good at driving. The F150 sells very well. Ergo, more risk of more property damage and human harm. You can’t get around physics. More mass with more force carries more risk.
> (this vehicle’s battery pack alone is ~1800 lbs)
The weight of an entire small car!
Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
#58We've added ~1000lb to the weight of these monstrosities (now 6,500lb), faster acceleration from a stop, and preserved the enormous front, with its twin features of blindspot and zero chance that someone can roll over top of it when you hit them. But now it's there for trunk space...
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#60I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...
It's not half and half, it's touchscreen with a physical volume knob which in my opinion is the right way . Having touch controls for volume is a horrible idea (my car has touch control for everything and I despise trying to get the volume adjusted quickly). https://i.imgur.com/Lw4GgNW.jpeg
If a touchscreen is bad for volume, it is probably bad for most other up and down adjustments too (e.g. temp). I'd argue touch screens are bad for everything when you are driving, because you can't feel your way around.