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A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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Re: A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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Sometimes I feel like we are sharing the world with fungus. As in, fungus consciously doesn't generate spores on us because it figured out that we will just grow it and put it in drinks and spread it any way. So using our mental processing power just let fungus realize it didn't have to try to use all its energy on the host capture and spore release routine. And of course, the observation that it has nothing to do wi…

What we consider lower forms of life have been around a lot longer than us. Fungus predate plants and originally ate minerals. They created the soil for plants to even evolve. Plants evolved in an environment created and controlled by fungus. Many plants have a symbiotic relationship with fungus. Entire ecosystems are connected and communicate by a mycorrhizal network. We owe our entire existence to fungus.

Not only that, but our own cells are similar to fungal cells, which is one reason that it's so difficult to create antifungal medication that isn't also toxic to humans.

Re: A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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> Consent to mate is in fact fairly distinctive to human beings. What? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtship_display

Sure, I said fairly distinctive rather than unique. It's interesting that monogamy and mostly-consensual sex are mostly found in some birds (not you ducks), rather than our closest relatives. There are a lot of mammalian paradigms for sex, for placental mammals in our weight class there's rather a lot of intramale competition, and estrus; the female being willing to be mounted by whatever male happens to win the figh…

Fair enough. I read “fairly distinctive” as “virtually unique”.

Mantis are an insect with a mating ritual, right?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00033...

Re: A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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"In yearly cicadas, the fungus makes them instead become hypersexual from psilocybin — the same chemical found in psychedelic mushrooms." I don't understand what's being said here. The fungus causes them to eat magic mushrooms? Edit: This is a better article: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/07/massospo...

Psilocybin is the active ingredient (a psychedelic prodrug, or drug precursor that's metabolized into a drug) in Magic Mushrooms. The fungus generates psilocybin and sheds it into the cicada, causing them to become hypersexual.

I did not realize just how many different kind of mushrooms produce that chemical. All over order Agaricales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushroom

So what's weird is that Massopora isn't even in the same division as Agaricales. They're both fungi. So what does that mean? That the classification is wrong, convergeant evolution, or fungi have been making drugs for an insanely long time?

Re: A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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Mushrooms are just the fruiting body. Fungal cells don't differentiate, so odds are good that if the mushroom gets you high, eating the dirt under the mushroom - where most of the fungus is - will also do the same thing. If you were somehow infected by one of these mushrooms, you'd be tripping all the time, not unlike the people who have beer yeast in their GI tract are slightly inebriated every time they eat simple…

Injecting spores into your blood stream can infect your body with mushrooms. DO NOT DO THIS, it can be fatal. https://www.insider.com/man-injected-with-mushrooms-grew-in-...

Wait. If he boiled the mushrooms, how did get spores? Does that mean Agaricales spores can survive 100ºC? Yikes.

Re: A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, I said fairly distinctive rather than unique. It's interesting that monogamy and mostly-consensual sex are mostly found in some birds (not you ducks), rather than our closest relatives. There are a lot of mammalian paradigms for sex, for placental mammals in our weight class there's rather a lot of intramale competition, and estrus; the female being willing to be mounted by whatever male happens to win the figh…

Fair enough. I read “fairly distinctive” as “virtually unique”. Mantis are an insect with a mating ritual, right? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00033...

> The courtship displays of the male and female may play the role of reducing intraspecific aggression during courtship and thus reducing the likelihood of cannibalism.

Whew! I think this also has relatively little to do with consent as humans understand it!

Re: A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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Some podcast -- RadioLab I think -- did an episode on how climate change (specifically, warming) has been putting selective pressure on fungi to make them hardier towards infecting warm-blooded animals... at the very same time that the average human body temperature has been trending down. Not a good thing.

It was RadioLab and it was probably the scariest thing I’ve heard about global warming yet.

By any chance do you know the name of the episode or the episode number? Thanks!

Re: A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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It was RadioLab and it was probably the scariest thing I’ve heard about global warming yet.

By any chance do you know the name of the episode or the episode number? Thanks!

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/fungu...

Re: A fungus that infects cicadas and pushes their mating into hyperdrive

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I wonder how the fungus knew how to make psilocybin, and that psilocybin was the right thing to make? Nature is pretty intense.

Presumably this is an outcome of selective breeding. The symbiotic interaction results in more offspring for both species. The invisible hand of mother gaia "knows".

But the cicadas have no genitalia at that point.
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