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Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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Isn't the bigger news here that IE has dropped below 50% market share (dramatically) for the first time in over a decade? It's dominance is kind of over.

sigh - the end users of the application I'm working on use 70%-90% IE depending on the platform. I wish this would change, but I doubt it as IE still is a major player in the enterprise market.

Target a different market, or at least charge significantly more so you can afford to hire somebody else to do it.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

#52

I'm sold on Google Chrome, but it's frustrating that some sites aren't available on Chrome and I'm forced to used Firefox and Safari from time to time. Does that qualify me as a user of all three, thereby inflating the statistics?

What sites aren't available on Google Chrome?

My bank didn't use to work properly but even they got around to fix that.

And my bank sucks.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

#53

I'm sold on Google Chrome, but it's frustrating that some sites aren't available on Chrome and I'm forced to used Firefox and Safari from time to time. Does that qualify me as a user of all three, thereby inflating the statistics?

What sites aren't available on Google Chrome?

Silicon Valley Bank

ADP Payroll

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

#54
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question was what Chrome does differently to Firefox. Firefox had adblocking before Chrome ever existed. IMO Chrome: - Feels faster - Looks a bit better Firefox, on the other hand: - Has better extensions - Has a better URL bar search function I actually use Chrome nowadays. It turns out that the speed and looks of the UI are important enough that I can put up with less polished extensions and a slightly inferior…

* - Has a better URL bar search function * For me, it's the opposite. Chrome's search bar does what I want predictably (run a Google search) where the awesome bar sends me all sorts of crazy places. It's that feature alone that keeps me on chrome.

In Firefox 4, the default address bar search changed to a regular Google search, rather than the "browse by name" behavior used in Firefox 3.6 which would sometimes do a search and sometimes go straight to the top result [1]. It should be much more predictable now.

[1]: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_Tips_:_Location_Bar_Sear...

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's fast. It's fast. It's fast. Oh, and it pop-up blocks, adblocks, and flashblocks.

The question was what Chrome does differently to Firefox. Firefox had adblocking before Chrome ever existed. IMO Chrome: - Feels faster - Looks a bit better Firefox, on the other hand: - Has better extensions - Has a better URL bar search function I actually use Chrome nowadays. It turns out that the speed and looks of the UI are important enough that I can put up with less polished extensions and a slightly inferior…

When Chrome came out it was (or felt?) ridiculously faster than anything else on the market - I could open Chrome and go to a page faster than I could open another browser.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

#56

I don't understand Google's game here. I thought Mozilla was being showered with cash from Google? If Google is now betting on Chrome, are they going to continue supporting Mozilla? Mozilla is a pretty small-budgeted non-profit and I think they rely heavily on Google's support.

I know a lot of people in the Green Party here in Germany who deliberately use Firefox because they deem it to be the most politically correct browser. My impression is that a lot of them neither realize that Firefox is indeed primarily sponsored by Google (which they consider evil), nor that Chrome/Chromium is open source, just as Firefox. They prefer Firefox for touchy-feely, not technical reasons. So there's a mar…

Chrome is closed source.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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I don't understand Google's game here. I thought Mozilla was being showered with cash from Google? If Google is now betting on Chrome, are they going to continue supporting Mozilla? Mozilla is a pretty small-budgeted non-profit and I think they rely heavily on Google's support.

My understanding is that the money that Google forks over to Mozilla is simply to keep Google as the browser's default search engine, not to sustain Firefox as a competing browser. If Google ceased that "funding", I'm sure some other search engine would step up to the plate. (Note: I've got no sources for this; just a cursory understanding.)

The money Google pays Mozilla is a split of the ad revenue. Google keeps renewing the contract because it's profitable for Google! They also don't want 25% of the web switching to use a different default search provider.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

#58

I'm sold on Google Chrome, but it's frustrating that some sites aren't available on Chrome and I'm forced to used Firefox and Safari from time to time. Does that qualify me as a user of all three, thereby inflating the statistics?

What sites aren't available on Google Chrome?

Time Warner Cable -> Bill Pay will not allow the site to load in Chrome. Then again, infrastructure operator interests are not generally aligned with Google's (an open web and TV over IP).

On a related note, it doesn't look as if there is a good user agent switcher in the Chrome Web Store (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search?hl=en-US&q=use...). Does anyone know if the extension API can modify Chrome HTTP headers? Firefox has a pretty good add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-sw...

UPDATE: Upon further inspection, looks like this experimental API does the trick: http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/dev/experimental.we...

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* - Has a better URL bar search function * For me, it's the opposite. Chrome's search bar does what I want predictably (run a Google search) where the awesome bar sends me all sorts of crazy places. It's that feature alone that keeps me on chrome.

I guess it depends on what you want to do. The Firefox awesome bar does a better job at guessing what bookmarked or historical site you want. For instance, if I type in "y" or "yc" in Firefox, then it correctly guesses that I probably want "news.ycombinator.com", because it's a site I often visit and one of the very few with "y" or "yc" in the domain name. Chrome, on the other hand, seems to only match from the start…

In Chrome 12, under about:flags, there was an option to "Enable better omnibox history matching". If you enabled this, it fixed the behaviour to work how you want. I understand they didn't have it on from the beginning as it was a strain to do full-text search on the database of accessed sites.

As of M13 it was made on by default. If I type 'y' I get YouTube, 'yc' a Google search, and 'yco' I get Hacker News.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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I don't understand Google's game here. I thought Mozilla was being showered with cash from Google? If Google is now betting on Chrome, are they going to continue supporting Mozilla? Mozilla is a pretty small-budgeted non-profit and I think they rely heavily on Google's support.

> I don't understand Google's game here. I thought Mozilla was being showered with cash from Google? If Google is now betting on Chrome, are they going to continue supporting Mozilla?

The game isn't browsers. Google makes no money from Chrome.

Google makes a ton of money from online ads. For that, it doesn't need to have the top browser. Having a great browser is very useful, but winning the browser war would be self-defeating.

Compare to Microsoft, which also makes no money from IE. But Microsoft actually does want to win the browser war, since marginalizing other browsers is good for Windows (like opposing anything cross-platform is).

Google's game is to make money. Not supporting Mozilla, while Mozilla is useful to it, would be counterproductive. Stopping to support Mozilla would help Chrome's marketshare, but hurt Google's income. I expect Google to continue to do the rational thing here as it always has.

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