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Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

nrp wrote: post #49
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please ensure that you support Linux Vendor Firmware Service (LVFS)[1] i.e ensure your vendors support it. Edit: Bit more rant about LVFS goodness Even my Logitech 2.4 Ghz receiver gets regular updates on LVFS, can't remember it happening even with official Logitech SW on Mac/Windows. LVFS fixes the embedded controller security/bugs mess. A functional laptop like Framework when released with first class suppo…

Definitely! We're set up as a vendor there and will be using it for updates in the future: https://fwupd.org/lvfs/vendors/#framework

Yay! Added some more rant about LVFS to my original comment.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Post by ncmncm »

detaro wrote: post #40
ncmncm wrote: post #27

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My nitpicking is about its offering only Intel CPUs. Hello? Why do Intel at all, these days? What everybody is desperate for are AMD laptops, which are barely available from the volume makers.

And if even the volume makers barely have the stuff available, always sold out immediately, you think they'd have an easier time?

Intel coerces the big guys by gaming their supply chain.

A little startup will not have got the attention of Intel, and their total volume needs are much more easily satisfied by what they can get from AMD's limited delivery than a big player could be.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Post by xur17 »

nrp wrote: post #25
ramanujank wrote: post #19

Congratulations to the founder(s) on the launch. Wishing you nothing but success! Nice to see a pluggable approach at a time when "repairability" is catching the fancy of the whole world. If I had to nitpick, it would be the fact that Linux is unfortunately a second class citizen. However, I do see that support for mainstream distros is available. Can you possibly shed some light on that and be a bit more specific? W…

We dogfood regularly on Ubuntu LTS and Fedora, and we've been working with the team at Fedora (and have provided them a pre-release unit). In general, the only issue we foresee in the near term is that the fingerprint reader likely won't work out of the box in Linux. There is a driver though, and we're working on making that setup as easy as possible until it is in mainline.

Do you plan to sell the prebuilt systems with linux preinstalled (or with no OS)? I have no desire for my money to go to Microsoft, and no desire for Windows, but the prebuilt model is intriguing to me.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Post by nrp »

xur17 wrote: post #55
nrp wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We dogfood regularly on Ubuntu LTS and Fedora, and we've been working with the team at Fedora (and have provided them a pre-release unit). In general, the only issue we foresee in the near term is that the fingerprint reader likely won't work out of the box in Linux. There is a driver though, and we're working on making that setup as easy as possible until it is in mainline.

Do you plan to sell the prebuilt systems with linux preinstalled (or with no OS)? I have no desire for my money to go to Microsoft, and no desire for Windows, but the prebuilt model is intriguing to me.

Preloading a Linux distro is something we may do in the future. We've made the DIY Edition super easy to set up though for folks who don't want Windows in the meantime.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Post by questionableans »

nrp wrote: post #3

Framework founder here. Happy to answer any questions anyone has on the product!

Have you tested the laptop’s materials for offgassing?

I’ve had problems with offgassing odors that never seem to go away on multiple monitors, MacBooks and an iPad in recent years. This leads to headaches that makes it impossible to use the machines for more than a few minutes, even with good room ventilation.

It would be great to buy a laptop that is known to be low offgassing. I was wondering if a Framework laptop would have less glue and could be more effective offgassed in a shed by disassembling the components and ventilating.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Post by COGlory »

nrp wrote: post #6
ruph123 wrote: post #4

I am really excited for this and consider buying a second gen next year if they support Linux. But $2000 + tax for a quad core is pretty brutal (i7-1185G7). I got a 14” notebook with a Ryzen 7 4800H for less than 1000€ from a small vendor (Tuxedo). Hard to choose this as it stands. Still I would support them and pay the markup. Hopefully they can support AMD CPUs in their next models.

Just a note that the Base configuration that starts at $999 is also a quad core, the i5-1135G7. The i7-1185G7 is really only necessary if you need vPro for enterprise fleet management reasons (we also have a i7-1165G7 SKU for folks who want higher clocks but not vPro).

Are you able to elaborate on why there's no AMD option? I've preordered a DIY one, with the hope that down the line I can put an AMD main board in. (Still undecided on whether I'll want it if that never becomes an option)
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