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I believe the whole airplane needs to be replaced after BRS use.
It may sound pointless unless you consider that the pilot will not need to be replaced.
Just in case anyone (like me) is thinking - wait did that aeroplane have a parachute? From: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_Airframe_Parachute_Sy... The Cirrus Airframe Parachute System (CAPS) is a whole-plane ballistic parachute recovery system designed specifically for Cirrus Aircraft's line of general aviation light aircraft including the SR20, SR22 and SF50. The design became the first of its kind to becom…
It's strange that the planes were supposed to be flying parallel and yet the damage to both planes in the photos suggests a collision at right angles Remarkable that the Metroliner held together, despite that terrible damage, and they landed it safely edit: interesting photo of the landing from the Reddit thread linked elsewhere https://imgur.com/gallery/yKPOWR0
Looking at the youtube video of the radar with the radio sound that someone posted below, the Cirrus is cleared to runway 17R but he turns to runway 17L. There are 3 possibilities : 1- he mistakes one runway for the other visually, 2- he wrongly thinks he is cleared for the 17L runway 3- or he makes a too wide turn going for the 17R, intruding the 17L area. The cirrus is the one that makes the mistake. The 17 runways…
> https://flttrack.fltplan.com/AirportDiagrams/KDENapt.jpg
This is the diagram for a different airport (Denver International, KDEN). The accident happened at Centennial Airport (KAPA), where the two runways are only separated by about 700 feet.
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Looking at the youtube video of the radar with the radio sound that someone posted below, the Cirrus is cleared to runway 17R but he turns to runway 17L. There are 3 possibilities : 1- he mistakes one runway for the other visually, 2- he wrongly thinks he is cleared for the 17L runway 3- or he makes a too wide turn going for the 17R, intruding the 17L area. The cirrus is the one that makes the mistake. The 17 runways…
> The 17 runways are quite separated laterally so it’s more probable that he was wrongly going for the 17L thinking he was aiming for the correct runway. > https://flttrack.fltplan.com/AirportDiagrams/KDENapt.jpg This is the diagram for a different airport (Denver International, KDEN). The accident happened at Centennial Airport (KAPA), where the two runways are only separated by about 700 feet.
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I was wondering whether there was a mix-up in the crew count, as one pilot with a parachute saves two people and a one-person crew lands the plane. This mostly clears it up.
My less charitable reading was that the pilot abandoned the Cirrus on a parachute, but then it seemed like the plane landed…
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What is KAPA and do people know what it means?
The ICAO airport code as used for navigation. They're different from the IATA 3 letter codes that most passengers know. US airports start with K, European with E (e.g. EF for Europe-France). Often for large airports the code is very similar to the IATA code for passengers, e.g. KJFK for JFK and KSFO for San Francisco. But not always, as in EGLL for London Heathrow which is LHR in passenger codes.
This is mostly only the case in the United States, since it has a single-letter K prefix, so they can append the 3-letter IATA code to make a valid 4-letter ICAO code. In the rest of the world the second letter of the ICAO code is used to designate countries, so the 3-letter IATA code cannot be appended.
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It may sound pointless unless you consider that the pilot will not need to be replaced.
There's the issue that in many cases people tried to save the airframe rather than activate the parachute, knowing the aircraft was likely to be written off, and died doing so. It the same when the pilot is equipped with a parachute.
Just in case anyone (like me) is thinking - wait did that aeroplane have a parachute? From: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_Airframe_Parachute_Sy... The Cirrus Airframe Parachute System (CAPS) is a whole-plane ballistic parachute recovery system designed specifically for Cirrus Aircraft's line of general aviation light aircraft including the SR20, SR22 and SF50. The design became the first of its kind to becom…
> The device is attributed with saving over 200 lives to date. https://www.cirruspilots.org/Safety/CAPS-Event-History
I think it’s great that the system exists, it has undoubtedly saved lives, but unless Cirrus crashes are overwhelmingly fatal compared to other airplanes, it’s overstating “fatal accidents turned into non-fatal accidents” by likely a factor of ~3 and number of fatalities avoided by ~4.
This type of mishap is probably the best scenario for a chute, though. I have no illusions that following a mid-air that I am still a strong favorite to bring my non-chute airplane to earth without fatalities. (The stats say I’m about a 60:40 favorite to do so.)
CAPS saves lives. CAPS has not saved the lives of every person who survived a CAPS deployment, because most of those would have survived anyway. In most off-airport arrival scenarios, I’d be wishing to have a chute.
* - One of my instructors was in command for CAPS Event #46
A photo of the airborne metroliner with fuselage blown open: https://imgur.com/gallery/yKPOWR0
