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Casio AI-1000 Pocket Lisp Computer from 1989 [video]

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Re: Casio AI-1000 Pocket Lisp Computer from 1989 [video]

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This was a duplicate of another thread posted one hour earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27034951 The comment I posted on lobste.rs: I’ve been curious about this computer for some years, and bid on one some time ago, but at more than 600 € that was more than I was going to pay for it. As far as I know, the machine is internally the same as the PB-2000C which I do have, just with different key labels and a…

That thread was posted later than this one. You can tell from the item IDs. When we put a story in the second-chance pool ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 ), the timestamp gets relativized to the re-up time, which can be confusing, though not as confusing as not doing it. More explanation at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... .

Thank you for the explanation. I see in those algolia search results that this comes up regularly.

Re: Casio AI-1000 Pocket Lisp Computer from 1989 [video]

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It's not a HN thing, it's everyone with a passion for technology, the same way how someone with a passion for cars will appreciate an old-timer rather than his Toyota Corolla. Honestly, stuff like this provides some much needed escapism for me as I feel burned out from scraping all the cruff from the bottom of the Jira barrel wihch is most "tech" jobs nowadays and miss the days I used to just tinker with stuf I enjoy…

“I think that it’s extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customers got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don’t think we are. I think we’re…

Interesting viewpoint. Not a lot of empathy towards users.

Re: Casio AI-1000 Pocket Lisp Computer from 1989 [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That thread was posted later than this one. You can tell from the item IDs. When we put a story in the second-chance pool ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 ), the timestamp gets relativized to the re-up time, which can be confusing, though not as confusing as not doing it. More explanation at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... .

Thank you for the explanation. I see in those algolia search results that this comes up regularly.

Alas it does, and also in the email inbox. I wish we had a better solution.

Re: Casio AI-1000 Pocket Lisp Computer from 1989 [video]

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I was devout HP-48 fan back in the day, even did some custom programming for one for a client (got paid!), deployed about 20 of them in to the field. This thing was a real delight to write programs for. Just RPL, nothing fancy. For $99 at the time, they were a handheld powerhouse. My singular complaint about them today is the lack of a backlight. It's just plain hard for me to read now. I do have one on my iPhone whi…

Haha. I missed the glory days of hp-48 (plus they never seemed very popular in Poland), but when I got my first android phone, pretty soon out of curiosity I installed Droid48... Ever since then, I keep an emulated HP48 with me.

> I missed the glory days of hp-48 (plus they never seemed very popular in Poland)

Is that true for the earlier HP's too?

> Ever since then, I keep an emulated HP48 with me.

Oddly, even though I used 48's and still have a couple in a drawer, I've settled on an HP42S emulator. (This was a lower end, but still nice, HP that was more directly a successor to the 41. In some ways, it feels more direct and calcualtor-like than the 28/48/etc series)

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For context, the 50G came out at the tail end of HP's development of calculators. (In fact, the original Corvallis calculator group had disbanded and the group that produced the 50G was a reconstitution assembled in part from the HP48 enthusiast community.) By the time the 50 rolled around, computers had reduced the role of calculators in professional work, and HP was left addressing the enthusiast and educational ma…

don't forget that the form change was done with hp49, in 1999, when scientific/engineering calculators were still in professional work since even in CAD/CAM/CAE era, sometimes you had to work away from the bulky desktops and laptops were still much more expensive and underpowered compared to your typical engineering PC. Of the arguments to move the enter key, only the need to add more buttons is IMO defendable :)

> don't forget that the form change was done with hp49,

Good point - I keep forgetting that one. (In fact, now that you mention it, I think the 49 may have been the first output from the reconstituted calculator team.)

Re: Casio AI-1000 Pocket Lisp Computer from 1989 [video]

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post #50

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Haha. I missed the glory days of hp-48 (plus they never seemed very popular in Poland), but when I got my first android phone, pretty soon out of curiosity I installed Droid48... Ever since then, I keep an emulated HP48 with me.

> I missed the glory days of hp-48 (plus they never seemed very popular in Poland) Is that true for the earlier HP's too? > Ever since then, I keep an emulated HP48 with me. Oddly, even though I used 48's and still have a couple in a drawer, I've settled on an HP42S emulator. (This was a lower end, but still nice, HP that was more directly a successor to the 41. In some ways, it feels more direct and calcualtor-like…

Earlier HP had no chance of being popular in Poland, and might have involved smuggling to acquire at all.

Re: Casio AI-1000 Pocket Lisp Computer from 1989 [video]

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.. which seems to have inspired a few like-minded souls: https://www.clockworkpi.com/devterm

These are very cool devices that I would buy to play around with but, I don't really understand the idea with a hingeless flat screen. That can promote a very bad posture if used on a table as one needs bend the neck to see the screen. Sure, these could be used in handheld mode but how much can you type with thumbs only before you want to use more fingers??

I think the DevTerm is more supposed to be hung around your neck like a hipster. ;) Or, duct-taped to the datacenter wall for when its time to minicom the hell out of things.
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