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Appsterdam: A Haven for Indie App Makers?

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Re: Appsterdam: A Haven for Indie App Makers?

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well, NL is pretty expensive to live in if you're earning USD; the tax burden is high if you're used to the US (though there's some offset because that tax includes what would be private medical insurance in the US); and people are forever grumbling about how hard it is to find places to live in Amsterdam. So maybe there's a reason for that. The meeting on 6th July in their event planner is labelled as 'weekly' thoug…

The tax does NOT include medical insurance. You're supposed to take out your own "zorgverzekering" (i.e. medical insurance) from a private company, although you can get a subsidy to cover the expense ("zorgtoeslag") if you have a low income. What you may be thinking about is AWBZ, a national insurance scheme for which you do indeed pay the premiums along with your taxes and that covers various sorts of long-term care…

By the way, don't interpret the above as saying that Amsterdam, or Holland generally, is a horrible place.

Amsterdam is a cosmopolitan, small city -- a combination you won't find many other places. It's a college town, a tourist attraction, and a center of international commerce. The city center and indeed many of the residential neighborhoods are extremely beautiful, at least if you're into brick and trees. You'll find many decently trained people to hire, all of whom speak Dutch and English fluently as well as a bit of German and French. You'll find that official bureaucracy is comparatively efficient and honest. You'll find well maintained, if slightly underprovisioned, highways linking you to the rest of Europe, as well as comfortable, clean trains running to every significant town in the country twice an hour, and a very well designed and operated international airport with a train station in the basement.

Re: Appsterdam: A Haven for Indie App Makers?

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I'm pretty surprised that the topic of immigration and work visas hasn't come up in this thread (unless I missed it, if so I appologize).

- I for one am very curious about laws around foreigners coming to Amsterdam to work, securing work visas etc.? - How easy is it for an entrepreneur to move there i.e. no job offer, just moving and looking for contract or to start their own company?

Re: Appsterdam: A Haven for Indie App Makers?

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I am a healthy 24 year old male, no health problems in any way. I was quoted health insurance in an attempt to find it after college, the cheapest plan was $690/month.

You need to look harder.

Look harder? What does that mean? There are what... 6 health insurance providers per state? They all decide you are expensive, sucks to be you....

Re: Appsterdam: A Haven for Indie App Makers?

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If you approach someone in Dutch speaking with a (non-middle eastern) accent, people will switch to English without asking. It's horribly annoying really, learning the language (and thus really picking up the oh so important subtleties in professional and private life) is made really difficult this way. People often explain it as kindness, but it's really just plain rude laziness: for many Dutch people, speaking slow…

I wouldn't call it rudeness, it's more a habit, you might find it rude, but that is your interpretation. Holland is a really small country that survives by trading with other countries. The countries around it are all much bigger and tend to want to speak their own language (German, French, English) so it has become common that the Dutch person adapts instead of forcing the other person to speak Dutch. Though funnily…

Happens to me always at the Dutch Coast. Somehow I look a bit German.

Re: Appsterdam: A Haven for Indie App Makers?

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Yes, to the point that learning Dutch on the fly is hard because nobody will try to speak it with you when they are so good with English.

If you approach someone in Dutch speaking with a (non-middle eastern) accent, people will switch to English without asking. It's horribly annoying really, learning the language (and thus really picking up the oh so important subtleties in professional and private life) is made really difficult this way. People often explain it as kindness, but it's really just plain rude laziness: for many Dutch people, speaking slow…

Rude? Excuse me? How is it my job as a Dutch person to teach you my language?

edit: oh Skrebbel, I see now it's you and I know you're Dutch. Point still stands though :)

Re: Appsterdam: A Haven for Indie App Makers?

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I pay $100 a month for insurance and make $150 an hour contracting. I'm guessing that I would lose way more money in taxes by taking free healthcare in the Netherlands.

I doubt that $100 covers everything the Dutch system would. And, if you have/had any kind of illness (current or pre-existing), I sincerely doubt it.

I don't require much medical treatment, but if I did I would pay the first 5k, then insurance would pay 80% up to a max. Well worth it if you're young(ish) and healthy.
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