GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down • Hacker News Board

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by matsemann » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:34 PM UTC

modin wrote: post #48

truth_ wrote: post #12

Not totally unrelated: Pearson is a piece of trash company. They sell very overpriced textbooks and always use DRM in online copies. They lobby for standardized tests in states and get them mandated. Students are put through them. And guess who provides the certificate required by teachers to evaluate those exam copies? Yes, Pearson. And they make a ton of money. Please watch this talk for more context (even if you d…

OT but is there a reason one would not like TED talks? Your parenthesis made me feel it could be controversial (comparable to social media).

TEDx talks (like the linked one is) are not proper TED talks, there are affiliated events all over hosting them. While there are many good TEDx talks, many of them aren't what you would expect when hearing the TED name. Especially bad is it that some TEDx events let quacks talk, which gives them a kind of legitimacy based on TED's reputation even though they're saying bullshit. Of course, this commingling has also tainted TED's brand.

The other thing is that most TED talks follow a certain formula. They do because it works, but watching many of them it sticks out and can be a bit annoying. There's probably a meta TED talk pointing out this somewhere.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by klodolph » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:35 PM UTC

modin wrote: post #48

truth_ wrote: post #12

Not totally unrelated: Pearson is a piece of trash company. They sell very overpriced textbooks and always use DRM in online copies. They lobby for standardized tests in states and get them mandated. Students are put through them. And guess who provides the certificate required by teachers to evaluate those exam copies? Yes, Pearson. And they make a ton of money. Please watch this talk for more context (even if you d…

OT but is there a reason one would not like TED talks? Your parenthesis made me feel it could be controversial (comparable to social media).

TED started giving nearly anyone a platform, which changed it from a curated set of higher-quality presentations into something more like YouTube. There are a ton of TED presentations full of debunked science. The entire vibe of TED talks seems a bit self-congratulatory and without substance, IMO. There's also TEDx, which has the same problems but worse.

There are still good TED talks, but you have to sort through TED the same way you sort through YouTube... and at that point, YouTube starts looking a lot better.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:40 PM UTC

modin wrote: post #48

truth_ wrote: post #12

Not totally unrelated: Pearson is a piece of trash company. They sell very overpriced textbooks and always use DRM in online copies. They lobby for standardized tests in states and get them mandated. Students are put through them. And guess who provides the certificate required by teachers to evaluate those exam copies? Yes, Pearson. And they make a ton of money. Please watch this talk for more context (even if you d…

OT but is there a reason one would not like TED talks? Your parenthesis made me feel it could be controversial (comparable to social media).

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Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by sokoloff » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:41 PM UTC

matsemann wrote: post #51

modin wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OT but is there a reason one would not like TED talks? Your parenthesis made me feel it could be controversial (comparable to social media).

TEDx talks (like the linked one is) are not proper TED talks, there are affiliated events all over hosting them. While there are many good TEDx talks, many of them aren't what you would expect when hearing the TED name. Especially bad is it that some TEDx events let quacks talk, which gives them a kind of legitimacy based on TED's reputation even though they're saying bullshit. Of course, this commingling has also ta…

Indeed: https://youtu.be/X9advgMBbdo

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by bayindirh » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:43 PM UTC

truth_ wrote: post #12

Not totally unrelated: Pearson is a piece of trash company. They sell very overpriced textbooks and always use DRM in online copies. They lobby for standardized tests in states and get them mandated. Students are put through them. And guess who provides the certificate required by teachers to evaluate those exam copies? Yes, Pearson. And they make a ton of money. Please watch this talk for more context (even if you d…

IMHO, the books I've bought from InformIT are not that bad. They're only watermarked, and were useful. IDK, maybe because they're not geared towards universities.

I'd happily stand corrected though.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by the8472 » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:48 PM UTC

qayxc wrote: post #20

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What seems odd is that the code is freely licenced to the public, no matter who wrote it. These DMCA requests are created and acted upon without the slightest checking, with no penalty. There should be some sort of modest cost somewhere to stop this nonsense.

> There should be some sort of modest cost somewhere to stop this nonsense. Playing the Devil's Advocate here: But wouldn't that in turn incentivise actual copyright infringement on account of it potentially being cheaper to mass publish copyrighted material as opposed to request it being taken down?

Costs could be per false claim, it would incentivize them to decrease their false positive rate.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by mirthflat83 » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:48 PM UTC

DerNuntius wrote: post #15

Here is the counternotice: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2021/04/2021-04-2...

What a shitshow

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by neatze » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:53 PM UTC

I don't understand this; does DMCA imply no one can use algorithms in a book within open source projects ?

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by rvz » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:59 PM UTC

IceWreck wrote: post #35

We should have a penalty/fine for fake DCMA requests. Big corps keep sending automated DCMAs with little consequence and often the little guys do have the resources to fight back.

Another reason to self-host. Rather than sit on someone else's platform.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Post by acdha » Sat, May 01, 2021, 2:59 PM UTC

IceWreck wrote: post #35

We should have a penalty/fine for fake DCMA requests. Big corps keep sending automated DCMAs with little consequence and often the little guys do have the resources to fight back.

This is in the law, but it’s rarely enforced. Stepping up education for judges and support for people filing lawsuits against major companies would be a relatively easy way to start making the automated bots riskier to run.