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Re: History of Techno

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Post by skrebbel » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 8:55 AM UTC

jasondoty wrote: post #43

ahurmazda wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its easy to miss but descriptions of the different genres are the true mvp. Some of the saltiest things I have read, true hilarity. E.g `Eurotrance`: > "The rank repugnance of the self-fellating culture of DJ worship is at the forefront of this many-headed hydra of rapacious rot. Overbearing anthems, boring breakdowns, and tasteless DJ vanity have combined into one monstrous, obnoxious, pompous, unlistenable Babyloni…

The descriptions are salty at every genre that is even somewhat popular. God forbid people actually enjoying the music without being under influence of several drugs

You're mixing up "you shouldn't like this" with "I don't like this".

The site is basically one very elaborate opinion piece. Ishkur doesn't like Eurotrance. Deal with it.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by Scown » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:04 AM UTC

siquick wrote: post #11

Quality article covering a lot of good ground. Hard to imagine that this kind of music is now nearly 40 years old. If anyones interested in hearing what modern techno is up to this is a pretty good list: https://www.soundshelter.net/collection/techno-records

Cheers for this... Hadn't heard of Soundshelter, great site! Techno thursday it is then.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by PicassoCTs » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:06 AM UTC

Missing:

Bedrock For What you Dream off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHmXaUSL6o

Undeworld Born Slippy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQGOlawi6n0

Re: History of Techno

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Post by PicassoCTs » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:07 AM UTC

Thlom wrote: post #20

disgu wrote: post #5

That has got to be the worst scrolling behavior I've ever seen on a website in my entire life.

Did they change it? Scrolls normally in latest Chrome on Win 10?

Some things are ment to be brokken

Re: History of Techno

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Post by insickness » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:11 AM UTC

james-bcn wrote: post #27

I'm surprised there's no mention of New Order's Blue Monday in there. I thought it was seen as a key moment in the history of techno? Can anyone with more knowledge than me comment on why it isn't there? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYH8DsU2WCk

Agreed. It is apparently "the biggest selling 12-inch single ever." But maybe because of its classic song structure (verse/chorus), it is not lumped in with what is typically considered techno.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by kristopolous » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:11 AM UTC

PicassoCTs wrote: post #53

Missing: Bedrock For What you Dream off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHmXaUSL6o Undeworld Born Slippy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQGOlawi6n0

Check out Underworlds first two rock albums btw. "Change the Weather" will grow on you.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by HKH2 » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:11 AM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #45

tern wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe it's here, but of course you need Flash http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ Another favorite is Ishkur's "trancecracker" comic, which you can find here: https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=245900

That comic is the funniest fucking thing I've seen in a long time. I was literally just making the argument with my friends who were going "oh, I wish Tiesto was still playing trance; he turned his back on the trance scene" to which I responded "Tiesto was never a trance DJ, he was a mainstage DJ. He's still a mainstage DJ, and you don't get on the mainstage playing trance anymore".

You don't get on the main stage without words/lyrics.

Also, any musician that wants to get big should know that the fastest way is to add words/lyrics.

Music is such a universal language that it needs to be annotated or something.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by kristopolous » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:17 AM UTC

fodmap wrote: post #37

Juan García Castillejo wrote in 1944 'La telegrafía rápida: el triteclado y la música eléctrica' (Fast telegraphy, trikeyboard, and electric music). You can read the gist of it at https://nathanjohnthompson.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/la-teleg... Here's the book in Spanish https://archive.org/details/latelegrafiarapida.eltritecladoy... and this is a homage to his work in 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZk6WrbOKw

Check out the soviet Nikolai Voinov who worked with electronic graphical sounds in the 1930s https://youtu.be/Mmejo9WL2gY

Re: History of Techno

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Post by siquick » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:19 AM UTC

If anyone wants more then Techno Rebels by Dan Sicko is widely considered to be the bible for the early history of Techno from Detroit.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/493341.Techno_Rebels

Re: History of Techno

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Post by insickness » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:28 AM UTC

_the_inflator wrote: post #22

kristopolous wrote: post #13

This is about as conventional a narrative as you can get. I've never been happy with it though, it's way too much of a tidy, linear, clean through-line. For instance, this narrative always leave out free-style and electro like Hashim (example: 1983, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykK0uEjSsqY ), Newcleus, etc. Soulsonic Force (1982: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHQ11l4uiM4 ) predated Atkins Cybotron project and At…

They try to be as concise as possible. For example, they completely missed out Front 242, Nitzer Ebb. However they at least mention the genre, EBM. And to be honest: what is techno else than Tallas invention in a record store? Frontpage magazine? So many things left out, but who cares? You either witnessed parts of the 90th or not. ;) I never understood my parents fondness for Woodstock and how an e guitar could be t…

They actually did mention Nitzer Ebb if you do a ctrl-F. Yes, very cool techno-ish, minimal seminal music. Ritchie Hawtin used to spin Murderous into his sets.

Recently there was a cool documentary about Wax Trax records called Industrial Accident. Worth seeing. Interviews with Front 242, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, KMFDM, Thrill Kill Kult, Trent Reznor, Frontline Assembly, etc.