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Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

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Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

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They close with this: However, a more critical review[0] of the epidemiological data that took into account genetic variants which impact the effect of alcohol intake on longevity shows that the described J-shaped relationship is not as robust as once thought. In conclusion the review simply states: The optimal level of alcohol intake for health and longevity is zero [0] https://academic.oup.com/ageing/article/49/3/3…

> The optimal level of alcohol intake for health and longevity is zero The whole "little alcohol can actually be healthy" meme is a good example of corporate sponsored research combined with publication bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publication_bias It went on 15-20 years before better and larger studies debunked it. Alcohol use and burden for 195 countries and territories, 1990–2016: a systematic analysis for…

> The whole "little alcohol can actually be healthy" meme is a good example of corporate sponsored research combined with publication bias.

It also is what everyone drinking a few glasses of wine here and there want to hear

Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

#52
post #19

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Epidemiology strikes again! I watch a lot of videos on nutrition and researchers often say that randomized control trials are too expensive so we need to rely on epidemiology despite its flaws. What I find crazy is that nations around the world collaborate and spend billions of dollars building a particle accelerator and yet we can't seem to find money to research something that affects every human every day of their…

I guess that is because particles in the accelerator are not alive, so you can accelerate anyway you want. Do you really want to round up a group of seniors and gives them different doses of alcohol and see how much you can accelerate their demise?

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Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

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post #51
post #16

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> The optimal level of alcohol intake for health and longevity is zero The whole "little alcohol can actually be healthy" meme is a good example of corporate sponsored research combined with publication bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publication_bias It went on 15-20 years before better and larger studies debunked it. Alcohol use and burden for 195 countries and territories, 1990–2016: a systematic analysis for…

> The whole "little alcohol can actually be healthy" meme is a good example of corporate sponsored research combined with publication bias. It also is what everyone drinking a few glasses of wine here and there want to hear

It is the typical story where whatever you like doing ALSO has to be healthy and good in all respects. So it can't just be "I like having a glass or two of wine in the evening to unwind." Likewise it can't just be "I think eating animals is morally wrong so I don't do it." It's like the human mind instinctively rebels against having to weigh tradeoffs.

Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

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I’ve been largely alcohol free since the new year. Prior to that I thought alcohol helped me rest. Now even one or two glasses of beer or wine messes up my sleep. The contrast helps me understand it better. Of course this anecdote shouldn’t be construed as robust data....

I've been working on switching most drinking for weed—for health reasons. Seriously. It's the best and lowest-side-effect sleep aid I've used. Hopefully it's not secretly doing horrible things to me, but my sleep quality's been amazing since I started to take a little a couple nights a week. Most consistently-decent sleep of my life.

I've had a similar experience. I've been using delta-8 at night for sleep and I've added 1-2 hrs a night according to my fitbit. I don't feel "hungover" or similar like I would from alcohol or OTC sleeping meds.

Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

#55
post #36
post #16

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> The optimal level of alcohol intake for health and longevity is zero The whole "little alcohol can actually be healthy" meme is a good example of corporate sponsored research combined with publication bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publication_bias It went on 15-20 years before better and larger studies debunked it. Alcohol use and burden for 195 countries and territories, 1990–2016: a systematic analysis for…

> These results suggest that alcohol control policies might need to be revised worldwide, refocusing on efforts to lower overall population-level consumption. It ought to astonish me that people unironically think this way, but then I remember one of the most dangerous and life-shortening human tendencies of them all - the desire to control others.

Yeah let's ban ATV's, swimming in the ocean, driving a car and eating cake while we're at it.

Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

#56
post #34

I have stopped drinking alcohol completely for a few years and the benefits are noticeable. Good sleep patterns, higher energy levels, better concentration and emotional stability among the more obvious benefits.

My alcohol intake is down to about once a month, and that driven by social/networking type events. But similar results - it feels better to not drink than to drink.

I am from a family that considered drinking alcohol "normal" Drink with food at social gatherings and to wind down at the end of the day. My wife suggested that I quit completely, I never realised how it was affecting me until I stopped.

Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

#57

OT: "Heart Rate Variability (HRV) gives us an idea about the state of our autonomic nervous system" This answered a big medical doubt I have had for the past week. For ages my heart rate has been at a stable 95-105 resting BPM with very little variability, which is quite high and understandable given my low fitness. I've recently radically changed my diet, and in 2 weeks my resting BPM has gone down to around 65 (!),…

Would you mind sharing your diet changes?

Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

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Weed inhibits REM sleep. You may feel rested, but you're actually harming yourself long term.

Damnit. Well, it's that or lots of 5-6 hour nights, or worse. Or bad hangovers and other weird shit from sleeping pills. Maybe time to get a sleep-tracker watch.

It might be worth going to a specialist for help.

Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

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I've been working on switching most drinking for weed—for health reasons. Seriously. It's the best and lowest-side-effect sleep aid I've used. Hopefully it's not secretly doing horrible things to me, but my sleep quality's been amazing since I started to take a little a couple nights a week. Most consistently-decent sleep of my life.

Weed inhibits REM sleep. You may feel rested, but you're actually harming yourself long term.

You're also inhibiting your ability to dream (and your ability to remember them). That is a lot of critical emotional processing not happening. Dreams matter, even if they don't make rational sense.

Re: Surprisingly little alcohol can affect heart rate variability

#60
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Epidemiology strikes again! I watch a lot of videos on nutrition and researchers often say that randomized control trials are too expensive so we need to rely on epidemiology despite its flaws. What I find crazy is that nations around the world collaborate and spend billions of dollars building a particle accelerator and yet we can't seem to find money to research something that affects every human every day of their…

I guess that is because particles in the accelerator are not alive, so you can accelerate anyway you want. Do you really want to round up a group of seniors and gives them different doses of alcohol and see how much you can accelerate their demise?

An experiment is not required, as the behavior (acceleration towards demise) may be observed and tracked at scale in the field
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