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Re: Card.io - fast and easy mobile credit card scanning

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Constructive criticism: This is an example how how the illusion of a beautifully designed, professional-looking site is easily burst by an amateur how-to video.

Hi Pud, Mike from card.io here. I totally agree, and thanks for the criticism. This video goes up tomorrow, courtesy of @zumpangofilms: http://youtu.be/7lg0nMH4NFk?hd=1

Re: Card.io - fast and easy mobile credit card scanning

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Otoh, more people should take credit cards! We should be moving away from credit cards. They are becoming an archaic technology.

While low-tech, credit cards are very flexible. I worry that the more high tech approaches (NFC, etc) are motivated not because its a step forward, but because its an opportunity to grab more control of the market, and leave consumers more exposed to fraud.

How are credit cards more flexible than a computer in your hand? Worst case your phone acts exactly like your credit card where you read numbers off of it.

Also, how would a phone lead to more fraud? You could authorize each transaction by cryptographically signing it after entering a passphrase. With a credit card anyone that steals your numbers can charge to it.

Re: Card.io - fast and easy mobile credit card scanning

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(Full disclosure, I'm a stock holder in Square) There are two good reasons Square doesn't do this that I can think of off the top of my head. First, CNP vs CP card processing rates. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_not_present_transaction Every credit card has the CC number encoded in to the back of the card, but in addition to that, it has a couple bytes of extra information. That extra information qualifies the me…

The other reason to run CP .vs CNP is, of course, fraud resolution. If you had the card in your hand, it's much less likely to have been someone running an online scam.

But the, why doesn't having a photo of the card in-question also qualify for a CP?

I think Square moved toward being able to swipe because it's more 'traditional'. People were going to be upset about vendors taking a pic of their card.

Re: Card.io - fast and easy mobile credit card scanning

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This is completely from left field, but should you ever move the project to an alternate domain name, card.io would be a perfect domain for a fitness-related app focusing on cardio workouts. I can see the title on HN: "Card.io - fast and easy workouts"

I honestly thought that this was a fitness related site. I can't help but still think of it that way even though I know what it is now.

I also thought it was going to be fitness-related.

Re: Card.io - fast and easy mobile credit card scanning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While low-tech, credit cards are very flexible. I worry that the more high tech approaches (NFC, etc) are motivated not because its a step forward, but because its an opportunity to grab more control of the market, and leave consumers more exposed to fraud.

How are credit cards more flexible than a computer in your hand? Worst case your phone acts exactly like your credit card where you read numbers off of it. Also, how would a phone lead to more fraud? You could authorize each transaction by cryptographically signing it after entering a passphrase. With a credit card anyone that steals your numbers can charge to it.

Magnetic credit card readers are cheap; look at how much Square charges.

The fraud prevention mechanism for magnetic cards is mostly reactive and doesn't require "passphrases" or "cryptographically signing," which is a big usability win.

Since issuers are on the hook for unauthorized charges, and generally make money from transaction fees, it's in their best interest to find a good compromise between fraud protection and usability. Adding consumer software and a wide variety of commoditized portable computing devices into the mix doesn't seem worth the cost.

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