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Re: iPad Pro M1

#52

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

Oh, do not worry... it's coming.

M1 > SwiftUI > MacCatalyst = Write once, run anywhere.

Watching the iPadOS and MacCatalyst APIs mature says different form factors will emphasize certain workflows over others, but overall, feature parity is and will be a priority across the device lineup, iPhone included...

Though it makes me sad... soon after their unified OS is realized, Sherman's coming by with his hammer. It'll be beautiful while it lasts.

Re: iPad Pro M1

#53
i have a m1 mac mini and so far it has been unusable garbage. it crashes everytime i shutdown/restart (lol) and will no longer detect any usb keyboards until i reinstall big sur. yes, really. maybe i could do a trade in for something like this to get a remotely usable device out of this waste of money

Re: iPad Pro M1

#54
This so easily could be my primary computing device. I've been an iPad user since the first gen and its my goto for anything that isn't work related and that's only because I can't easily write software on it.

I understand there are more people interested in the use cases apple illustrated in their presentation than software developers who just want to run docker on their ipads so I wont hold my breath.

But I'd love to actually justify the need for an M1 to be in an ipad.

Re: iPad Pro M1

#55
Apple has lidar on this iPad. At some point, Elon has to concede that lidar is not too expensive to put in a car, right? I understand that not all lidar is the same in precision and cost. But surely some lidar is better than no lidar.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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How long before MacOS and iPadOS have enough feature parity that they get merged?

Probably never. The divergence between macOS and ipadOS is not technical, it's that Apple believes a touch-oriented and a pointer-oriented interface are completely different things.

If the kernel is the same, I imagine at some point it is going to happen.

Re: iPad Pro M1

#57

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

As an active user of the Mac. That would not be a step forward. It would be a step backward. There are so many things that are fundamentally impossible on a closed ecosystem like the iPad. For example, Macs still support, even on the M1, installing your own OSes. I don't get why some Apple fans are so interested in destroying a core stable of Apple's userbase.

I think they could find a good middle ground. Since macOS can run iOS apps on M1 devices, why not allow it to be installed on the iPad as-is? Let users choose between iPadOS for the tablet experience, or macOS for the "full" experience.

Of course just saying this out loud sounds ridiculous considering that Apple is Apple but hey, we can dream. :)

Re: iPad Pro M1

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably never. The divergence between macOS and ipadOS is not technical, it's that Apple believes a touch-oriented and a pointer-oriented interface are completely different things.

With BigSur, users can run ipad and iphone apps natively on an M1 mac. It's not a large stretch to see some overlap between allowing macOS features on a large screen mobile device.

> It's not a large stretch to see some overlap between allowing macOS features on a large screen mobile device.

It is in fact a rather large stretch. macOS allowing the larger targets of iPad applications is a rather different proposition than macOS's rather small targets being on touch devices.

Re: iPad Pro M1

#60

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

Seriously. The thing that still bites me the most is that "Share" functionality of files continues to be broken in certain apps.

For example, I frequently need to save a PDF from my Google Drive app either to my local Files or the Books app. But both those options are just... missing from the iOS share sheet, even though Acrobat is there. So I have to share to Acrobat, then share to Files or Books from within Acrobat. Bizarre.

The problem is some kind of combination of file type plus application -- Gmail will let me share a PDF straight to Files or Books just fine.

Or sometimes when you open a PDF in Books from another app it saves it to Books as a copy... but in other cases it opens it in-place. So you think you copied a bunch of things into Books to read on the airplane... and then they're not there.

The fact that there's never any indication whether something is being copied or not, and that apps that support a filetype are simply arbitrarily missing from some share sheets (but not all), makes iPadOS just a disaster for any serious work that spans multiple apps.

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