Here in Brazil the pandemic is currently in the worst phase it has ever been, with no signs of improving in the near future. I'm glad that other countries can have good news to share but unfortunately that is certainly not the case here.
Are you saying that just based on PCR testing results, or actual experience in daily life?
You at least get to shop, study, entertain and transport yourself in public without limitations, which is something that most people from elsewhere in the world cannot say?
"Why should I get this shot instead of waiting for the one that works?" Do I really need to clarify that I am not the one asking this question?
The booster isn't because the first shot isn't working now. It will be required because your body will eventually forget how to fight COVID (you'll need three shots no matter when you start) or because new variants will pop up. Either way, your choice is "get the shots now and be safe for the intervening year, or get the two shots a year of non-protection later". The cost of getting another shot every year is nothing…
But being infected by the virus (esp in moderate infections) causes the same antigen response as the vaccine. Is this saying that the antibodies to sars-cov-2 wane after a year? If so, it seems this virus is well on its way to endemic status
CNN Technical director told us as much - Money & power. https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-2-cnn-director-char...
Project Veritas has a history of being so wildly deceitful[1] that if they said the sky was blue, I'd want to look outside to check myself first before I believed them. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Content
translation: I don't like what Project Veritas presents, so it must be wildly deceitful, and I need not consider the issue any further.
The booster isn't because the first shot isn't working now. It will be required because your body will eventually forget how to fight COVID (you'll need three shots no matter when you start) or because new variants will pop up. Either way, your choice is "get the shots now and be safe for the intervening year, or get the two shots a year of non-protection later". The cost of getting another shot every year is nothing…
But being infected by the virus (esp in moderate infections) causes the same antigen response as the vaccine. Is this saying that the antibodies to sars-cov-2 wane after a year? If so, it seems this virus is well on its way to endemic status
I've heard numbers thrown around for anywhere between 6 and 18 months for common antibody lifetime. Obviously, these are guesses based on similar viruses and have evolved over the past year. It's probably going to be endemic, although it's possible that with sufficient vaccine production we can knock it out of humanity. The problem is it seems to survive so well in animal hosts.
Reinfections right now are rare enough that we don't know much, but there have been second cases that seem more severe than the first. This is likely because of lung damage from the first case. But faded immunity from the vaccine won't have the same lung damage. So the faded immunity should be sufficient to eliminate the worst outcomes most times.
So the question of when we start boosters depends on how bad the condition will have to be that we are inoculating against.
Here in Brazil the pandemic is currently in the worst phase it has ever been, with no signs of improving in the near future. I'm glad that other countries can have good news to share but unfortunately that is certainly not the case here.
Are you saying that just based on PCR testing results, or actual experience in daily life? You at least get to shop, study, entertain and transport yourself in public without limitations, which is something that most people from elsewhere in the world cannot say?
Would love to hear personal experience of OP but there are horrifying news stories.
Lots of young people and kids getting very sick [1], lack of food [2], running out of oxygen w/ over 4k dying a day (reported who knows the real number..), vaccine they are using only 50% effective [3], asking women to delay getting pregnant [4] and more.
There is a steady stream of anti-vaccine fake news - all designed to look plausible. People with an education in biotech detacts this, the common person weighs it as a bit of valid news = seeds of doubt are sown. check microbe.tv for the real goods.
I have to say, I think that vaccine advocates are making a tactical mistake by characterising those who do not like or do not want the vaccine (and say so) as "fake news", "designed to look plausible", and so on. They have a different view to you and people can have differing views without either of them having hidden agendas, being evil etc. Before you ask, I'm keen on vaccines (and have had AZ), but I'm an old git,…
That is the tyranny of the uninformed manifesting. In technicall matters the vote of uninformed people lacks validity to change affairs.
The human immune system(s) - yes, we have a number of them. The innate system which evolution has fine tuned to protect us, and the adaptive (learns to defeat a pathogen). These are not voted on by an animal's free will. They are entirely automatic, as animals and man in the past had zero comprehension of what occurs behind the scenes.
People have the unwise right to refuse vaccination - perhaps to their detriment or death. (try to keep living after you get bitten by an infectious rabid animal and see what happens).
This brings to center stage the true merits of the anti-vaxxers. Get enough doubters and many controlled viruses will lose their 'herd immunity' at which point we well get sweeping waves of infection of many of these 'defeated' viruses.
This is OK, of you feel mankind has overpopulated the earth - the added deaths will reduce the degree of overpopulation.
I for one want measles to be eliminated and stay dead. Many orthdox Jewish communities seem to want measles to be an ongoing scourge of man. What about smallpox = 35% death rate. The plague - about the same. Polio? I am old enough to recall the huge rooms full of people doomed to live the rest of their lives encased in an artificial lung.
So, no, I will not respect that choice = no respect at all - they can do it if they like, but if they choose to let their kids get those illnesses deliberately, then they need to be forced to buy disease specific health insurance, and remove that burden from my health care pool.
Just to be clear .. a technical director has approximately 0 to say about programming decisions. They deal with sound / lighting / computing equipment.
I wouldn't say zero. He works there, he gets the feel there. You have to wonder why did he said all of those specific things. Do you think he made them all up on the spot? Those things he said line up with their programming (the death toll counters, etc.).
CNN's 24/7 death clock seems to have disappeared when Biden was inaugurated. It's almost as if .... :-)
Here in Brazil the pandemic is currently in the worst phase it has ever been, with no signs of improving in the near future. I'm glad that other countries can have good news to share but unfortunately that is certainly not the case here.
Are you saying that just based on PCR testing results, or actual experience in daily life? You at least get to shop, study, entertain and transport yourself in public without limitations, which is something that most people from elsewhere in the world cannot say?
The lack of limitations is part of the problem. We're currently at the highest number of COVID cases and deaths but despite that there is a lot of resistance against the government implementing a lockdown, in large part because the federal government is run by science-hating lunatics.
The most horrifying recent news is that hospitals around the country are running out of sedatives used for COVID intensive care. There have been reports of intubated patients waking up from sedation and having to be tied down to their beds to keep them from ripping out the air tube. It's inhumane.
Maybe, but ignore Vertias involvement and just concentrate on the raw footage they captured. You can't just fake a conversation like that without fearsome technology or maybe bribery.
> ignore Vertias involvement Sorry, no. They've tainted the well too much to do that.
So you'll blindly reject data based on ideological disagreement with the person filming? Sounds like Veritas isn't the biased one here.
Are you saying that just based on PCR testing results, or actual experience in daily life? You at least get to shop, study, entertain and transport yourself in public without limitations, which is something that most people from elsewhere in the world cannot say?
Would love to hear personal experience of OP but there are horrifying news stories. Lots of young people and kids getting very sick [1], lack of food [2], running out of oxygen w/ over 4k dying a day (reported who knows the real number..), vaccine they are using only 50% effective [3], asking women to delay getting pregnant [4] and more. 1 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/brazil-alarming-high-num... 2 https://www.…
Personally, it sucks having to navigate treating a serious health condition, scheduling surgery, etc, in the middle of a pandemic. The silver lining is that my close family has the privilege that we can all work from home, so at least we're relatively safe from the COVID itself.