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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Quite - I have been using Windows since Windows 2.0 and I have never seen an ad - perhaps I am doing something wrong?

You have never had Candy Crush-esque apps installed automatically?

I really don't know everything that is installed on my computer - do you on yours? I can say I have never seen the thing.

And anyway, surely that is a game, not an ad?

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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For free... Only after you buy their (overpriced) proprietary hardware. Where could I download a copy of their OS, for free, to install on my non-Apple desktop? Okay now do you see why that isn't a fair comparison?

It's pretty fair. You pay money - you get a product. In Windows, you pay money - you get ads and tracking. edit: To make it clear to people not reading the comment carefully, I'm not saying MacOS is "free". I'm merely saying that once you pay for the computer, the OS is included in the price. And there is no additional monetization under the form of ads or tracking. Unlike in the Windows world, where you pay for the…

>To make it clear to people not reading the comment carefully, I'm not saying MacOS is "free".

You are misinterpreting the parent's argument by saying "it's pretty fair" then, as they were saying it's unfair to call MacOS "free."

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Here's whats so odd here: - google can push chrome on people in their search results. and google pushed HARD. So hard they dominate the browser market and chrome is unfortunately not known for privacy. - google pretty much makes it impossible to get away from chrome entirely in android. Example being that you MUST use chrome webview when using the google search app. Even though everything else uses firefox for me. -…

"Google does this wrong thing so MS should be able to too!" No, that's not how this works. If it's wrong, stop Google from doing it, instead of letting others do it too.

Not disagreeing with you on it. But to stop google we'd need acts of legislature from multiple countries. At best we'll see results in 5 years.

MS can't wait that long for a maybe sort of kind of. Just being practical here.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Related: Microsoft Edge’s user numbers are continuing to grow while Firefox's, which at one point was the second-most popular browser behind Chrome, keeps falling: https://www.techspot.com/news/89180-mircosoft-edge-user-numb... Advertisements or recommendations in Windows 10 are definitely helping Edge

Ive been using Edge for the last few months and very happy with it. The new vertical tabs feature is great.

I don't understand the vertical tabs. The top bar still takes up just as much space. But now I also have less horizontal space too.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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It's pretty fair. You pay money - you get a product. In Windows, you pay money - you get ads and tracking. edit: To make it clear to people not reading the comment carefully, I'm not saying MacOS is "free". I'm merely saying that once you pay for the computer, the OS is included in the price. And there is no additional monetization under the form of ads or tracking. Unlike in the Windows world, where you pay for the…

> In Windows, you pay money - you get ads and tracking. Where do I have to click to get those ads?

If, like me, you're using Enterprise edition, you'll never see any of these ads.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Here's whats so odd here: - google can push chrome on people in their search results. and google pushed HARD. So hard they dominate the browser market and chrome is unfortunately not known for privacy. - google pretty much makes it impossible to get away from chrome entirely in android. Example being that you MUST use chrome webview when using the google search app. Even though everything else uses firefox for me. -…

> Example being that you MUST use chrome webview when using the google search app.

On my Pixel, when I start a search from the home screen, and then click on a result, it opens that page in Firefox.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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It's pretty fair. You pay money - you get a product. In Windows, you pay money - you get ads and tracking. edit: To make it clear to people not reading the comment carefully, I'm not saying MacOS is "free". I'm merely saying that once you pay for the computer, the OS is included in the price. And there is no additional monetization under the form of ads or tracking. Unlike in the Windows world, where you pay for the…

>To make it clear to people not reading the comment carefully, I'm not saying MacOS is "free". You are misinterpreting the parent's argument by saying "it's pretty fair" then, as they were saying it's unfair to call MacOS "free."

No, it is fair competition because in both cases you paid money for the product, as I am clearly stating in the original comment.

In one case it just also happens to be impossible to avoid being further monetized via ads and tracking.

This, to me, is unacceptable for paid software, as essentially amounts to license fee + adware model.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Related: Microsoft Edge’s user numbers are continuing to grow while Firefox's, which at one point was the second-most popular browser behind Chrome, keeps falling: https://www.techspot.com/news/89180-mircosoft-edge-user-numb... Advertisements or recommendations in Windows 10 are definitely helping Edge

Yeah, but that's Firefox and Edge fighting over scraps while Chrome, which has more than four times the market share of both of them combined (67% vs. 8% each), is still eating their lunch...

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool

I use it every day and tbh I haven't had to touch the settings in years. I never encounter this stuff. And reading the article it explicitly says they will only show users this feature if edge is their default browser.

> And reading the article it explicitly says they will only show users this feature if edge is their default browser.

That’s not what it says. It says "even when Microsoft Edge is the default browser".

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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post #51

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You have never had Candy Crush-esque apps installed automatically?

I really don't know everything that is installed on my computer - do you on yours? I can say I have never seen the thing. And anyway, surely that is a game, not an ad?

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