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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by approxim8ion » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:35 PM UTC

kube-system wrote: post #35

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

Run pihole or a similar dns solution at the network level, and you can block domains without installing anything on your devices.

Host based blocking is certainly better than nothing, but uBlock offers much more comprehensive and expansive blocking, not to mention cosmetic filtering and other features that you can't achieve with PiHole/NextDNS/AdguardDNS/Blokada etc..

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by bassdropvroom » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:35 PM UTC

> The Firefox version of uBO makes use of WebAssembly code for core filtering code paths. This is not the case with Chromium-based browsers because this would require an extra permission in the extension manifest which could cause friction when publishing the extension in the Chrome Web Store.

Anyone know what this extra permission is and why requesting this extra permission would cause friction?

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by throw0101a » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:35 PM UTC

Can someone ELI5 the pros and cons of using uBlock Origin and/or uMatrix?

Should I be using one, either, both? Are they competitors or complementary? What does each do best?

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:37 PM UTC

Sunspark wrote: post #43

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

It's my regular browser for years. There's a lot of things it does well or differently. For example, one UI thing I appreciate about it is the ability to override a webpage's font type and size choice. Chromium browsers don't let you do that, you only get to pick if the website didn't pick for you.

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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by kube-system » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:37 PM UTC

approxim8ion wrote: post #51

kube-system wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Run pihole or a similar dns solution at the network level, and you can block domains without installing anything on your devices.

Host based blocking is certainly better than nothing, but uBlock offers much more comprehensive and expansive blocking, not to mention cosmetic filtering and other features that you can't achieve with PiHole/NextDNS/AdguardDNS/Blokada etc..

For sure, it's not as powerful as something that can modify the DOM, etc. But, you can also run both, if you still prefer uBlock on your PC.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by 10000truths » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:38 PM UTC

bassdropvroom wrote: post #52

> The Firefox version of uBO makes use of WebAssembly code for core filtering code paths. This is not the case with Chromium-based browsers because this would require an extra permission in the extension manifest which could cause friction when publishing the extension in the Chrome Web Store. Anyone know what this extra permission is and why requesting this extra permission would cause friction?

My guess is that it’s much harder to review WASM bytecode to make sure it doesn’t do anything sketchy.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by bennysomething » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:39 PM UTC

bilekas wrote: post #22

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Firefox does seem to have really improved over the last few iterations, performance also when large numbers of tabs open. I cant find the link right now, but there was a nice timings done where Chrome was using less CPU at lower tab counts, but when it increased count, the CPU utilization was considerably higher than FF. I'll be giving it a fair shake for a few months.

True but I've gone back to version 68 on Android. Latest versions don't work with s load of extensions I use. Old Reddit being one of them. And I don't care about cookies

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by paxys » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:39 PM UTC

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I have been using Firefox as my daily driver for 3+ years now. Haven't encountered a single case of sites working any worse than on Chrome.

I also recently started using Firefox full-time on my work machine despite IT strongly mandating that all our tools only work on Chrome and everyone should use that. Have had zero problems (and we use every Google service under the sun).

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by 725686 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:40 PM UTC

voxic11 wrote: post #27

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

Is it? Last time I tried, here where a bunch of sites that just didn't work.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by b112 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:40 PM UTC

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #19

crocsarecool wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

The. Worst. I don’t care at all about any of this. Give me the time they boil for ffs. I don’t know if it’s sites paying by the word, or SEO, or some “value added” psychological trick. It is getting worse.

I bet they've noticed 'more time spent on the page' since they added interesting stories to those recipes! "When I was little, Grandma did this and that and blah blah blah".

Of course, the time spent is cursing, and skimming and hunting to find useful info. No one is finding the story interesting, but it looks good on metrics?

I wonder if the above is accurate or not.