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Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Post by hungryhobo »

cyrksoft wrote: post #43
castroliu wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

` People in China aren’t free and can’t do anything unless the CCP dictators let them.` I'm Chinese, I feel assaulted when westerners say anything closer to it, how brainwashed they are and how corrupted your media is. The truth is, human are the same, China is huge, nothing is perfect, but of course people are free living in China, if the government corrupted, there are various way to report, and the local leaders g…

I am not sure why you assume that I am American or consume media from those particular countries. I am from Latin America, and I know from first hand the power and the influence of the CCP. It's funny you mention how free you are while having to use a VPN for most internet applications (I collaborate with people in China and it's very hard to communicate sometimes, the only way to use Whatsapp is through a VPN and th…

Have you wondered why despite being one of the most resource rich places on the planet, with some of the brightest populace, Latin America remains relatively insignificant on the world stage? Why isn't Latin America exerting it's influence and power abroad? Sure you have free access to google and Facebook, but you have no IT industry of your own. What can a software engineer except for hoping to get hired by an American company. Maybe instead of complaining about CCP power and influence, you should learn from them and have the balls to develop your industries, and maybe you'll finally escape the middle income trap

Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Post by ansgri »

throwawaybbqed wrote: post #26
ansgri wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Moscow, major Asian companies like Samsung, Huawei, LG all have research centers where they hire some of the best science students from top universities, in particular by organizing joint study programs. This seems to be a widespread practice around the world for them, and actually profitable for both students and universities.

Interesting observation about Moscow having a lot of research labs. I never thought to wonder why Moscow had so many but this is an interesting point. What do you mean by join study program? Can you explain? Also, is there anything that stops top talent from moving to Silicon Valley (or some place else?) after they finish school?

Many top universities here are not like self-contained research universities of the West — they mostly deal with education, and research is conducted at non-educational academic institutions. So, for their Masters work, and maybe earlier, students do research in various organizations that have contracts with university. These are either academic institutions or commercial research departments or tech companies like Yandex.

As for SV, it’s not that simple, it seems — most emigrants that I know either got job at something like Swiss Google after building a solid resume here or got into some academic program (PhD or postdoc) abroad.

Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Post by bgee »

ChemSpider wrote: post #17
llampx wrote: post #2

I feel sad somehow. Huawei was the only company which was going toe-to-toe against Google and Apple in the AI space. I saw it in their phones, which were better than many others, and had even better computational photography than Pixels of the same generation, in my opinion. Combined with their chip design expertise - they were making chips that were as good or better than the Snapdragons, its clear why the US needed…

> they were making chips that were as good or better than the Snapdragons Which ones? And how were they better?

"The Snapdragon 888 wins in terms of CPU performance while the Kirin 9000 seems to be the one with the better GPU and AI capabilities. However, there are other factors to consider such as power efficiency where the Kirin 9000 already does excellently well as shown in our review video. So until there is an in-depth device-to-device comparison, we can’t say which chipset is the clear winner." [0]

[0]https://www.gizmochina.com/2020/12/04/chip-battle-snapdragon...

Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Post by KptMarchewa »

throwawaybbqed wrote: post #26
ansgri wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Moscow, major Asian companies like Samsung, Huawei, LG all have research centers where they hire some of the best science students from top universities, in particular by organizing joint study programs. This seems to be a widespread practice around the world for them, and actually profitable for both students and universities.

Interesting observation about Moscow having a lot of research labs. I never thought to wonder why Moscow had so many but this is an interesting point. What do you mean by join study program? Can you explain? Also, is there anything that stops top talent from moving to Silicon Valley (or some place else?) after they finish school?

>Also, is there anything that stops top talent from moving to Silicon Valley

Besides insane US visa policies?

Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Post by Daho0n »

tester34 wrote: post #28
Daho0n wrote: post #6

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You can't steal people. You can kidnap people and you can hire people. Maybe if you kill them you can steal the body? You sound like an anti-piracy advertisement. "Piracy is theft".

"steal" is other way of saying "hired" because it feels kinda differently when you want to buy $competitor's top people

You can only "buy" top people if your offer is better though. I see nothing wrong in people switching jobs for a better offer. Calling it stealing makes it sound as A Bad Thing while in truth it is a good thing for the person getting hired. If businesses shared the profits equally this wouldn't happen but then we are not in capitalism anymore..

Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Post by powerapple »

castroliu wrote: post #35
cyrksoft wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, in your view, every government in the world is totalitarian and genocidal? How can you compare the Chinese government, a dictatorship, with most democratic governments from western countries? Of course some governments do bad things, but tell me something genocidal the US government or Canadian government or any EU country is currently doing. There is no logical way to compare the Chinese government with any othe…

` People in China aren’t free and can’t do anything unless the CCP dictators let them.` I'm Chinese, I feel assaulted when westerners say anything closer to it, how brainwashed they are and how corrupted your media is. The truth is, human are the same, China is huge, nothing is perfect, but of course people are free living in China, if the government corrupted, there are various way to report, and the local leaders g…

They will just call you brainwashed. I am already giving up on telling others. In the future, we will be living in matrix, and everyone will be happy with their reality.

Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Post by powerapple »

cyrksoft wrote: post #43
castroliu wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

` People in China aren’t free and can’t do anything unless the CCP dictators let them.` I'm Chinese, I feel assaulted when westerners say anything closer to it, how brainwashed they are and how corrupted your media is. The truth is, human are the same, China is huge, nothing is perfect, but of course people are free living in China, if the government corrupted, there are various way to report, and the local leaders g…

I am not sure why you assume that I am American or consume media from those particular countries. I am from Latin America, and I know from first hand the power and the influence of the CCP. It's funny you mention how free you are while having to use a VPN for most internet applications (I collaborate with people in China and it's very hard to communicate sometimes, the only way to use Whatsapp is through a VPN and th…

Are you not allowed to use WeChat to communicate with people in China? Why is that?

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Post by megous »

Ceezy wrote: post #21
megous wrote: post #20

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Obviously only now matters now. Not 150 or 15 years ago. Don't ask me why.

So if only now matter you mean that nobody should pay their debt? Cause i know a country who goes to extreme length to get back his money... So which was in it? Both ways i guess. By the way if you interested the US is STILL in Irak, Donald Trump PARDON the CEO of Blackwater, US is supporting the war in Yemen, look it up it goes on and on....

It was sarcasm.

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Post by rurban »

zeb88 wrote: post #3
llampx wrote: post #2

I feel sad somehow. Huawei was the only company which was going toe-to-toe against Google and Apple in the AI space. I saw it in their phones, which were better than many others, and had even better computational photography than Pixels of the same generation, in my opinion. Combined with their chip design expertise - they were making chips that were as good or better than the Snapdragons, its clear why the US needed…

The issue is that it's a government owned entity, one that's totalitarian, genocidal and their technologies are largely stolen.

On hand a rising communist regime dominating the markets, on the other an aggressive, genocidal, fascist regime, which once dominated the markets. Both backdooring their devices for global mass surveillance.
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