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Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by radicalbyte »

the-dude wrote: post #35
korijn wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was on the national news couple days ago, too many to list but here's one article: https://nos.nl/l/2373565 I don't know about death threats though. But I for sure would feel intimidated as hell.

I see nothing about letter bombs or death threats.

Here are the death threats:

https://www.gelderlander.nl/nijmegen/huub-bellemakers-gl-wor...

Rumoured letter bombs were around new years (Cobras). They were rumours, mind - it's not like they've made specific claims.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by 1996 »

Reason077 wrote: post #4

> "Armin received a bottle of jenever in thanks. „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”" It would have been airport security that made him throw it away, not customs. At that time, the UK was part of the customs union, so there were no customs on a flight between the Netherlands and UK.

> „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”"

B.S.

Before a flight, a highly paid (given what they do) security theather monkey tried to demand that I forfeit an expensive bottle.

Knowing full well how it works in most countries, where the loots are split at the end of the day, I said "watch this", chugged it down, and voluntarily surrendered the now empty bottle.

At least I enjoyed it partly!

Even if later I did throw up during the flight, I prefer being sick than my luxury bottle being stolen by a security theater monkey.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by dragonwriter »

aww_dang wrote: post #21
fallingknife wrote: post #6

> When the hoster receives an official request from the US to remove copyrighted materials – a DMCA takedown notice – the men do nothing about it, says a person who saw it happen. „DMCAs are just tossed in the wastepaper basket.” Subletters even advertise this ‘service’. „DMCA ignored” reads one advertisement offering space in the „state of the art Ecatel DataCenter, located in Amsterdam”. The Dutch hosting company d…

Many of the robo-DMCA-claim firms simply search for the string of a movie title. If the page in question is determined by their poorly written software to include the content, a DMCA takedown request is spammed. No human confirmation is involved. One wonders who the abusers and spammers are in this situation. Of course some will claim that provisions exist for damages to be claimed in the event of false takedowns, bu…

> Of course some will claim that provisions exist for damages to be claimed in the event of false takedowns

If the falsity is only in regard to the not-under-perjury parts of a takedown notice (like, say, that there is infringing content!), then you maybe, in some circumstances, have a tortious interference claim, but, generally, you are screwed. If you are lucky, your host has and follows a counternotice process and you can get the material back up, but recovering any damages is unlikely.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by buzer »

tsimionescu wrote: post #42
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not take spirits, wine, or beer (sealed) on a flight in the EU? EDIT: Removed question about duty free, answered by replies below. Odd, as in the US, there is no limit if in your checked baggage if below 24% ABV, and 5 liters if 24% - 70% (carry on has much stricter limits [3.4oz or less that can fit comfortably in one quart-sized, clear, zip-top bag], but is still permitted). https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06…

For checked-in bags, there is no limit in the EU at all as far as I know. The problem is with carry-on, where you are extremely limited in the quantity of liquids you can get past security - no more than ~100ml, and even then it must be in a bottle inside a clear plastic bag.

There probably isn't an EU-level limit, but member countries can set them. In Finland you can bring as much as you want for your own use, but past some point you need to be able to actually prove that it's for your own use. Current guidelines are: 110 liters of beer, 10 liters of other alcohol drinks, 20 liters of max 22 % intermediate products, 90 liters of wines or fermented long drinks/ciders. Common reasons for bringing more than that are e.g. your own wedding.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by dragonwriter »

JadeNB wrote: post #45
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

personal story: I remember uploading a BF3 montage on YouTube some eons ago when it was all the rage, no copyrighted music or anything. I received a DMCA claim by some spanish tv/broadcasting company or something along those lines, totally unrelated to my content. --- The fact that DMCA claims can be issued with no human interaction and no repurcussions is beyond me. If anything, the hosting company should at least i…

> If anything, the hosting company should at least issue penalties on false claims. If penalties are issued by the hosting company, then they just won't be paid. Then you lose: there's no way to take all the non-paying offenders to court, and you can't ignore subsequent requests, so you wind up in the same situation as you're in now. Instead, move the onus off the hosting company: if they receive from some entity a D…

> if they receive from some entity a DMCA takedown that is believed to be false (according to whatever standards are applied to counterclaims)

There are no standards for counterclaims except format standards. All a counterclaim does is permit undoing a takedown without the provider being liable, transferring determination of who is right to litigation between the purported copyright owner and the content uploader with the host fully immunized.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by dragonwriter »

toast0 wrote: post #20
vonwoodson wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright laws are international. If you think WIPO won’t enforce a DMCA claim because “American laws don’t apply outside of the US” (Bwahahahaha! Ha hahah! gasp HAHAH!! Ha! Ha! Ahh heh heh heh... oh, my...) you’re kidding yourself. https://www.wipo.int/

You can't enforce a DMCA claim against an entity without ties to the US. You can enforce a copyright claim against an entity in a jurisdiction that respects copyright, but you're going to need to use that jurisdiction's procedures. I'm sure these companies don't throwout local court summons, but a lot of copyright holders (or their agents) send out DMCA claims and don't follow through beyond that.

> You can't enforce a DMCA claim against an entity without ties to the US

a “DMCA claim" isn’t really the issue, the DMCA safe harbor (takedowns aren’t a basis for claims, but for safe harbor from claims against the provider) doesn’t apply outside of US law. To the extent another jurisdiction has provider liability, following US DMCA takedown rules won't protect you from it.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by the-dude »

radicalbyte wrote: post #51
the-dude wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see nothing about letter bombs or death threats.

Here are the death threats: https://www.gelderlander.nl/nijmegen/huub-bellemakers-gl-wor... Rumoured letter bombs were around new years (Cobras). They were rumours, mind - it's not like they've made specific claims.

Could you please quote the death threats? I am not seeing them at a glance.

So are you backtracking on the letter bombs? They were merely rumors?

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by dragonwriter »

aaomidi wrote: post #44

50% of known CP is hosted in Netherlands. A country smaller than New York state.

> 50% of known CP is hosted in Netherlands.

Does that mean “CP is hosted disproportionately in the Netherlands” or “CP hosted in the Netherlands is disproportionately likely to be discovered”?

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by jerrysievert »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #8
raverbashing wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes (he should have known not to take liquids as hand-luggage on a flight) Edit: as hand-luggage

Can you not take spirits, wine, or beer (sealed) on a flight in the EU? EDIT: Removed question about duty free, answered by replies below. Odd, as in the US, there is no limit if in your checked baggage if below 24% ABV, and 5 liters if 24% - 70% (carry on has much stricter limits [3.4oz or less that can fit comfortably in one quart-sized, clear, zip-top bag], but is still permitted). https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06…

when flying back from china, the duty free shop asked me what my next airport was (Seattle) and whether it was a connecting flight or not (it was). at that point, they told me that they wouldn't sell me anything, as I would have it confiscated.

they were correct, the international arrivals required another bag check to enter the domestic part of the airport, that had the stringent TSA rules (after you went through customs and collected your luggage, before you could drop your luggage off again for your next flight).

so, it appears to be airport by airport when traveling to the US.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by eptcyka »

Ekaros wrote: post #13
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not take spirits, wine, or beer (sealed) on a flight in the EU? EDIT: Removed question about duty free, answered by replies below. Odd, as in the US, there is no limit if in your checked baggage if below 24% ABV, and 5 liters if 24% - 70% (carry on has much stricter limits [3.4oz or less that can fit comfortably in one quart-sized, clear, zip-top bag], but is still permitted). https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06…

They are after the checkpoints and they are marked. So you can take them on board. But that likely won't work for next flight if you have to through security again... Also some airlines sell stuff that is directly deposited on your seat.

I don't want anything to do with seats on planes that have had liquids deposited onto them.
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