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China pressured Concordia University to cancel event with Uighur activist (2019)

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Why were the Soviet Union's people finally fed up with it? The poor standard of living was surely a part of that. By the same reasoning, trade with China helps sustain the CCP.

Poor standard of living, no freedom, constantly being lied to - and being aware of it and having finally the courage to do something about. Because other people had the courage first. Thats how it came down. Chinas populations is increasing their standard of living. So you think the outside world has to cripple their economy so the chinese people turn against their rulers? How would you feel about that, if you would…

Boycotts, disinvestment, and sanctions is how civil rights movements are fought. Of course the Chinese people won't know why other countries are pulling away, because their government won't allow that information to reach them and will blame foreign enemies instead, but blaming foreign powers only works for a limited time. And what better strategy would you suggest?

What we shouldn't do is overlook abuses in other nations simply because our own nations are imperfect.

Re: China pressured Concordia University to cancel event with Uighur activist (2019)

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Imagine a country that locked up over 2 million people of a particular ethnic background[0]. Then when challenged about it ran propaganda about it being necessary. When activists rose up in peaceful protest they were assassinated[1]. And we sit idly by. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_... [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luth... .

This is some tired-ass whattaboutism shit[0]. Say what you will about the USA, but it is at least a flawed democracy. The Black Lives Matter movement is having a real impact. Can you imagine the Uighur equivalent in China? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

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Re: China pressured Concordia University to cancel event with Uighur activist (2019)

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> Cheering on a todays stalin or hitler, because you are in opposition to some factions of your democratic society, makes you a complicit in their atrocities. Absolutely. I see really hard to fathom log from fellows who scream "There is no Democracy in America!," and then decide to run to China. Never met such personally, but I know such are all around the tech industry here. Chinese medias are exhilariating about th…

""There is no Democracy in America!," and then decide to run to China"

Are people actually saying this today?

I mean, I was discussing with one guy who claimed the corona dictatorship is so bad, he rather goes to north corea. But he didn't go and I stopped wasting time arguing with such people. But this person for instance would have qualifed as mentally ill and drug abuser. Not a normal person.

So what normal person is saying this today? Or is this a straw man?

Because what I don't like in this debate, when you cannot "bark at america and its system", because china is worse. They clearly are. But this does not negate valid criticism of the US hegemony.

Re: China pressured Concordia University to cancel event with Uighur activist (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poor standard of living, no freedom, constantly being lied to - and being aware of it and having finally the courage to do something about. Because other people had the courage first. Thats how it came down. Chinas populations is increasing their standard of living. So you think the outside world has to cripple their economy so the chinese people turn against their rulers? How would you feel about that, if you would…

Boycotts, disinvestment, and sanctions is how civil rights movements are fought. Of course the Chinese people won't know why other countries are pulling away, because their government won't allow that information to reach them and will blame foreign enemies instead, but blaming foreign powers only works for a limited time. And what better strategy would you suggest? What we shouldn't do is overlook abuses in other na…

"Boycotts, disinvestment, and sanctions is how civil rights movements are fought."

How about: leading by good example?

There are plenty of chinese people outside of the great firewall regulary going back. So that information would get in.

Re: China pressured Concordia University to cancel event with Uighur activist (2019)

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Chinese diplomats even go after Children books: China gets German children's book about COVID withdrawn https://www.dw.com/en/china-gets-german-childrens-book-about... "The Chinese consulate in Hamburg promptly threatened the Carlsen publishing house with filing criminal charges, demanding the recall of the book as well as a public apology."

> Moritz already knows something about Corona.

> "The virus comes from China and from there it spread over the entire world", he says. "When you get infected, you can get a strong cough and fever. Sometimes also the lung gets sick, so that you can't breath well anymore."

https://imgur.com/a/fyB8CnE

Re: China pressured Concordia University to cancel event with Uighur activist (2019)

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You do know who the founder of the PRC is, right? If not, it's Mao, maybe that name rings a bell. Basically the same when Germany would now be ruled by the Nazi party, and you would claim they didn't really do anything bad.

Last time I checked, Mao is not in charge anymore. Since a very long time. So anyway, you claim, china is worse, than the nazis regime? I would like to get some evidence of gas chambers then pls. Also, how many wars did communist china started, compared to the US?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/201...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Peo...

Re: China pressured Concordia University to cancel event with Uighur activist (2019)

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The funny thing is the more they do this the more we get to hear about the plight of the Uighurs.

Are you refering to those creepy youtube videos, about how happy the uighurs are? Or those fake offence videos, were they claim to be offended by news they cant even watch behind the great fire wall?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNfQ4wEfUxM

Re: China pressured Concordia University to cancel event with Uighur activist (2019)

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I went to Japan in the 90s. The amount of leftover Nazi symbols (carved everywhere, marked on city maps where old depots were, etc) and casual use of Nazi references in literature was shocking.

You sure those weren't actually Manji? They mark where temples are. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35349619

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