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Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Congrats to Linode, 8 years that's a long time. Which makes me wonder, was Linode the earliest or one of the earliest VPS hosting provider? I'm guessing in 2002 it wasn't that mature a market or was there already a few big players hovering about by the time Linode stepped in?

Yes, at least one of the earliest. It's much older than slicehost. When I signed up for them some years ago, there weren't alternatives.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

#52

Congrats on the anniversary. To provide a balanced perspective on this thread, let me share our experience. We (Visual Website Optimizer) are hosted on Linode since beginning but have experienced degradation of service lately particularly around network availability. There is at least one minor outage every month in their Newark data center (planning around network outage is much harder). While their support is respo…

I notice a few blips now and then, too - it's visible on my graphs. Sometimes they can be as long as an hour or two. But then, I'm not getting any user reports in these times which makes me just wonder about the monitoring. I was having some major problems with a server that would flip out under heavy load. Turns out it was the specific kernel I was using. Linode support was quite helpful once I actually contacted th…

I also get the blips which are visible on my graphs.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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How regular and how long? They don't provide 100% uptime guarantee. A few hours a month of downtime is what 99.99% uptime. That's not bad at all. I personally haven't had issues with the network in the Dallas DC.

There are 30*24 = 720 hours a month. If a "few hours" is 2 hours, then that is 718/720 = 99.72% uptime. This means 0.28% downtime vs 0.01% downtime. IOW, almost 30x worse than a 99.99% uptime promise (if that's even what Linode promises). Math FTW!

ok.... seems like I can't enter numbers into irb ;p you are right 99.99% would be about an hour a year.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

#54

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It's not like you have a fixed-rate mortgage on that apartment. You don't expect your landlord to let you rent at below-market rates do you? I guess what I'm saying is if you want to lock in a low rent you need to negotiate for a longer lease.

Linode has never reduced how much I pay for my vps either, so I don't understand where you get the idea that I'm angling for them to lower my rent. All I'm saying is that some token of appreciation would be great and lock in my loyalty. I pay for a garage ... a free month of that maybe?

The cost of disk space and memory decreases over time as technology progresses. Property cost usually does not. Certain building materials do not (sometimes it gets more expensive). Labour certainly doesn't.

If you're going to compare apples to oranges, you can't start complaining that apples should have more vitamin C. Linode can afford to give away these loyalty bonuses. Your landlord probably can't.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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I like Linode and use them. But 25% is almost an insult. Storage is absurdly expensive at Linode: literally 10x what Amazon charges for EBS stores (a little less, as Linode storage is local and there are no usage charges). I really wish they were more competitive. Right now I have a tiny instance running my personal email, but everything else I do looks more attractive on EC2 or Rackspace.

Isn't Rackspace Cloud more expensive? Or are you just talking about storage? I think for many people, RAM and CPU become an issue long before disk space.

Unlike Linode, Rackspace Cloud decouples the server pricing from the bandwidth pricing. A base server on Rackspace is cheap and it remains so if you use very little bandwidth. If you calculate the Rackspace cost using the maximum bandwidth bundled with a comparable Linode VPS then Rackspace is indeed more expensive.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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No, it isn't. In addition to using Pingdom, we are continuously monitoring availability from multiple different locations (these scripts also do DNS switching). Every time we detect an issue, we contact Linode and many times they confirm network issues (sometimes internal, sometimes upstream). Just two days back they confirmed one internal outage. See this screenshot: http://imgur.com/jYzuD Almost every time we conta…

Pingdom is notoriously unreliable and I base this on personal experience and experiences of others. False positives are the norm and it is garbage.

Maybe, but we do monitor using our scripts as well.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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I like Linode and use them. But 25% is almost an insult. Storage is absurdly expensive at Linode: literally 10x what Amazon charges for EBS stores (a little less, as Linode storage is local and there are no usage charges). I really wish they were more competitive. Right now I have a tiny instance running my personal email, but everything else I do looks more attractive on EC2 or Rackspace.

Linode storage comes bundled with a virtual machine! The more you pay, the more RAM, network transfer quota, and better CPU contention you get - without any extra costs. It's hardly an apples to apples comparison.

No, that's not correct. EC2/EBS and Linode are actually almost the same pricing model: you get a base configuration with some amount of cpu/memory/storage, and can add extra storage on a per-GB basis. Amazon just happens to bill by the hour instead of the month for this stuff.

EC2 and Linode instances are actually pretty comparable in capability and price. But storage is way out of whack: again we're not talking about Linode being a little more: it's a full order of magnitude more. That's just not acceptable to me.

I used to have my camera archives on Linode until they outgrew the 20G instance. At this point they're going onto EBS (or S3, if I'm willing to write some code) as soon as I get the opportunity to do it. I don't see any value beyond inertia to staying with Linode.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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How dare Linode insult you by giving you free service improvements for no reason. Damn them.

'Free service improvements' is pretty much what one ought to expect in a competitive market where one of the costs (disk space) halves every year or so.

You would think so but linode is pretty much still the exception with quality vps hosting.

The first year I used linode 2007 there was an insane amount of upgrades, maybe someday soon they will pass more of this on to us but I'm glad they are still doing it.

http://blog.linode.com/category/upgrades/

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Well, my experience with Linode started well: good price, great interface, etc. Until somebody unrelated to me sent spam containing a URL pointing to one of my web sites. A recipient complained to Linode. Linode opened a ticket around 2am. At 6am, they simply shutdown my VPS becasue I didn't answer the ticket! I got the message a few hours later when I woke up.

I f you want to take any website hosted on Linode down, you know what to do...

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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How regular and how long? They don't provide 100% uptime guarantee. A few hours a month of downtime is what 99.99% uptime. That's not bad at all. I personally haven't had issues with the network in the Dallas DC.

Network outage for us even for couple of seconds can be bad because we are serving about 1300 requests/second at peak which can mean a number of users getting affected.

The Internet itself is inherently unreliable. Your users will traverse multiple hops (many networks) before connecting to your servers at any provider, as will any external monitoring systems you put in place. Brief issues along the paths between them and your servers can and will occur. While the Internet as a whole is designed to route around problems, this doesn't happen instantaneously in most cases, although it can happen very quickly.

This is not to say that internal network issues won't happen at any provider on occasion as well, because they certainly will. No network is perfect, least of all the massive system of interconnected networks known as the Internet, and you need to accept and plan for this. To believe or expect otherwise is simply unrealistic.

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