Cultural extrapolation
This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]
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Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get a YouTube embed [0], of which it probably has a list it tries to deliver one from randomly. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tSa701EftM
I got the same exact video. I wonder if that's because its not random or just doesn't have enough videos
Whatever I viewed, frequently morphed into car shapes, with an apparent emphasis on frontal and rear portions. A sort of pseudo intellectual ADHD pr0n vid for kinky vehicle computers, or very peripherally specialized humans.
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#53This is scary and what I feared would eventually happen. How long before AI is better than every music producer, trained on all of music how likeable something is? How long before fake influencers on IG and TikTok completely dominate by having more addictive personalities and videos to follow than real people?
There's two fallacies I think you've touched on here, one is that there is an "objectively best" music. Music is so tightly coupled to cultural movements, very subjective, and extremely broad in scope, it just can't be the case. The second I feel is that people would still be interested in AI music in a meaningful way. I think AI music has a following now because it's interesting and novel, and that gives it a story,…
> one is that there is an "objectively best" music.
Case in point, I enjoy some shit. No way AI will replace lo-fi recorded-in-underground-bunker limited-cassette-tape-release atmospheric black metal / noise.
I mean it might, but here's a take from a different angle: art is not just the end result, it's the process and the story behind it. Nobody objectively gives a shit about a selfie from the early 1500's, but because of its provenance the Mona Lisa is considered one of the most valuable pieces of art out there. Nobody gives a shit about a database row with an ID, timestamp, user ID and the text "just setting up my twttr", but because it's the first tweet and it's put on a trading platform and it might appreciate in value, someone spent $2.5M on it.
You slag of TikTok because every generation will slag off whatever the following generation(s) do, that's normal. But the generation following you see that differently, and in two decades they will still reference some of the more iconic clips they've seen. I mean I do it with really bad movie voiceovers from nearly 20 years ago, as well as terrible porn intros. It's part of culture.
Anyway, there will be a place for AI generated anything alongside the handcrafted stuff. Like how there is still a market for handcrafted goods alongside the mass producing machines. Or hand-drawn art in the age of digital. Or physical valuables in the age of electronic money and cryptocurrencies.
Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
William Gibson's Neuromancer (1984) features a Jamaican space tug where the "righteous dub" played within is automatically generated by remixing a vast library of existing music. I was fascinated by the concept when I first read about it as a budding DJ, and it's kind of exciting to see it come to fruition, even if the single tune this particular AI seems to play is pretty insipid.
Just started reading Neuromancer. Glad to know this.
Ah man, now you can see what the past ~37 years of sci-fi films and video games have been making little nods and allusions to all this time :)
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#55The syncing of the visuals to the music brings to mind the video for The Chemical Brothers’ Star Guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S43IwBF0uM
A really impressive achievement, I wonder how they achieved it when the song was released.
https://m.youtube.com/watch/GF0-wGbRqEs
Making of Star Guitar
Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]
#56This is scary and what I feared would eventually happen. How long before AI is better than every music producer, trained on all of music how likeable something is? How long before fake influencers on IG and TikTok completely dominate by having more addictive personalities and videos to follow than real people?
There's two fallacies I think you've touched on here, one is that there is an "objectively best" music. Music is so tightly coupled to cultural movements, very subjective, and extremely broad in scope, it just can't be the case. The second I feel is that people would still be interested in AI music in a meaningful way. I think AI music has a following now because it's interesting and novel, and that gives it a story,…
I am old enough to remember when people were afraid that Muzak would take over.
It did not.
I was at a Chinese restaurant, around a year and a half ago, and realized that the music they played was a sort of “ersatz” music. It was familiar tunes, like Scarborough Fair, or Hotel California, slightly modified, and strung together. Vocals were basically wordless humming.
There is an entire industry, based on musicians, providing “stock music,” and it’s been around for a long time. Sort of a musical equivalent of Shutterstock. Some of this music is quite good. Most is fairly boring.
Music is way too connected to our emotions to be reliably synthesized. AI would need to advance to be able to produce emotions and creativity, before it would threaten the music industry.
Also, there’s always the “tabloid” aspect of the industry. There are artists that may be fairly unremarkable musicians, but generate a lot of press coverage. Unless the world of Questionable Content becomes real, I can’t see any Star headlines of AIs beating up paparazzi.
Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]
#57This is scary and what I feared would eventually happen. How long before AI is better than every music producer, trained on all of music how likeable something is? How long before fake influencers on IG and TikTok completely dominate by having more addictive personalities and videos to follow than real people?
William Gibson's Neuromancer (1984) features a Jamaican space tug where the "righteous dub" played within is automatically generated by remixing a vast library of existing music. I was fascinated by the concept when I first read about it as a budding DJ, and it's kind of exciting to see it come to fruition, even if the single tune this particular AI seems to play is pretty insipid.
This sounds like an application I want to play with. Given a playlist, generate an endless tune based on remixes of all the tracks.
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#58Shameless plug: You can create one of these yourself using https://wzrd.ai , with any audio you want.
It allows to login in only with Google. Can't use it.
Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]
#59The syncing of the visuals to the music brings to mind the video for The Chemical Brothers’ Star Guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S43IwBF0uM
A really impressive achievement, I wonder how they achieved it when the song was released.
I recall seeing a behind-the-scenes clip somewhere (perhaps on the Directors Label series that came out in the early 2000s) where Gondry talks about his brother piecing this together from video footage they'd captured. I can't find that clip but came across this very early exploration towards the final product: https://youtu.be/GF0-wGbRqEs
Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]
#60This is scary and what I feared would eventually happen. How long before AI is better than every music producer, trained on all of music how likeable something is? How long before fake influencers on IG and TikTok completely dominate by having more addictive personalities and videos to follow than real people?
There's two fallacies I think you've touched on here, one is that there is an "objectively best" music. Music is so tightly coupled to cultural movements, very subjective, and extremely broad in scope, it just can't be the case. The second I feel is that people would still be interested in AI music in a meaningful way. I think AI music has a following now because it's interesting and novel, and that gives it a story,…
I don't think we need "objectively best" here—merely "subjectively best". And because each person could have their own AI DJ trained on an arbitrarily rich set of preferences and experiences from their one-person audience, we should expect that AI DJ to be subjectively the best for their respective human.
Obviously, this overlooks the shared experience element of music, but that's not so relevant in the case of online music we consume solo.