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Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by emodendroket »

rscoots wrote: post #48
emodendroket wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russiagate has its similarities but there are obvious limitations to trying to shut down any false or exaggerated narrative being promoted by people with federal power. But hey if you've got a plan I'm listening.

You'll note that the user you're replying to mentioned news organizations, not people with fedal power. Can you name the people at these large tech companies you trust to determine what constitutes a hoax and what doesn't? How will you hold them to account should they get it wrong?

No, I don't, really. But they already do it, often in ways I dislike, and I can't see why to pretend the genie is back in the bottle and acting like I'm sad they're exercising that power against what I consider obviously harmful disinformation.

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by AlwaysRock »

emodendroket wrote: post #11
waterheater wrote: post #8

Mirriam-Webster defines "extremism" [1] as "advocacy of extreme measures or views : radicalism" By this definition, extremism and radicalism are equivocated. However, I know many people on the "left" presently identify as radicals ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_left ). The article differentiates between the terms "extremism" and "radicalism" by assigning a "political-right" label to "extremists" and a "polit…

I think you have to play pretty fast and loose with the groups involved to come to these conclusions.

Yeah... Anytime a paragraph starts with a dictionary definition it is rarely going to result in a good explanation of a difficult and nuanced topic.

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by yostrovs »

bitdizzy wrote: post #38
fatsdomino001 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Support for colour-blindness is far-right? Who knew MLK was such a far right extremist eh?

MLK was not by any means color blind. The only way you could come to that conclusion is if your entire understanding of his politics were a single sound bite.

He did want a color blind society. He explicitly talked about it.

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by rscoots »

bitdizzy wrote: post #38
fatsdomino001 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Support for colour-blindness is far-right? Who knew MLK was such a far right extremist eh?

MLK was not by any means color blind. The only way you could come to that conclusion is if your entire understanding of his politics were a single sound bite.

He advocated for a color blind future. Obviously he did not bury his head in the sand to the non-color blind injustices he saw in his country.

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by freeflight »

betterunix2 wrote: post #39
freeflight wrote: post #30

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FYI: In 2009 a 88-year-old white supremacist started murdering people in the Holocaust Memorial Museum [0] That period was also heavily dominated by Islamophobia in the US with firebomb attacks on Islamic Centers and random brown people getting assaulted and called "terrorists". Heck, a mere 4 days after 9/11 happened a Sikh was shot for being mistaken as an Arab Muslim due to his turban [1]. Which actually makes no…

Again, the average American was not out doing these things. I am not denying that there was a problem then, I am only saying that it is not representative of the average .

How do you even define the "average American" and in what context?

Are these people average Americans? [0]

No offense, but this sounds a lot like the argument how Trump supporters are allegedly just a "loud minority", a claim that's factually disproved not just by results from the public votes of two presidential elections, but the fact that he won one of them and only barely lost the other one.

Where does the "average American" fall in that context? Is there even an "average" when the only two valid political choices have become distilled down to a superficial "We are not the other party" forcing everybody to pick between two allegedly completely opposing sides?

[0] https://youtu.be/KHJlZyFxp88

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by yostrovs »

emodendroket wrote: post #41
seneca wrote: post #35

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There were left wing rioters burning down buildings all summer and pushing for extreme policies to be instituted in our government. I'm quite worried about that, and the fact that many power centers fell in line to pretend it wasn't happening.

And what impact have they had beyond a bunch of anodyne "we support black lives" statements? It's not even clear to me that the rioters were particularly well organized or politically engaged so I'm not sure that social media targeting would make much difference (with I guess the possible exception of censoring any police violence videos).

Thousands of houses and businesses burned down, families moving out of cities, huge records set for guns sold and for first time gun buyers, and you pretend nothing happened last year.

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by seneca »

leesalminen wrote: post #50
seneca wrote: post #44

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> Every rifle is semiautomatic This is just incorrect. Bolt action and muzzleloaded rifles are both extremely common and not semiautomatic. That being said, "semiautomatic" is usually a useless scare-word thrown in by people who have no clue what they're talking about.

My mother believed for the majority of her adult life that “semi-automatic” meant “fully automatic”, as in “squeeze once, all the bullets come out”. It’s incredible that people with little to no knowledge of the mechanics of guns want to regulate exactly that.

Indeed, and that's exactly why it is used that way. It's an intentional weasle-word used by gun control advocates to scare observers.

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by emodendroket »

yostrovs wrote: post #56
emodendroket wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what impact have they had beyond a bunch of anodyne "we support black lives" statements? It's not even clear to me that the rioters were particularly well organized or politically engaged so I'm not sure that social media targeting would make much difference (with I guess the possible exception of censoring any police violence videos).

Thousands of houses and businesses burned down, families moving out of cities, huge records set for guns sold and for first time gun buyers, and you pretend nothing happened last year.

It's neither the first time we had race riots nor, most likely, the last. What action do you think is needed?

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by [deleted] »

stormqloud wrote: post #31
it wrote: post #23

Interesting how the article doesn't mention any game of whac-a-mole to root out leftist extremism.

Leftist extremism doesn't exist. Look how many years they spent telling us Islam is a religion of peace and calling every islamic attach on society a lone wolf attack. Cognitive dissonance. Populations doesn't know what to think anymore if they think at all.

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Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by TheBobinator »

emodendroket wrote: post #45
jtdev wrote: post #36

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Please explain what you mean by this.

The Democrats beat back a left-wing challenge from their base quite handily and Joe Biden was proud to say so. When I consider this and the generally contemptuous attitude of Dems toward their more progressive supporters, I find the notion of a Red Guard reshaping America in their image something like a fever dream and not a serious analysis. To my mind the Capitol raid is playing a much larger role in their minds. T…

The core base of the Democratic party; Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, and their ilk; have been in power in their jerrymandered districts for decades, and in line with accusing others what what they themselves are doing, they accused the Republicans for over a year with planning to usurp power for the mortal sin of making a fuss over Mail In Balloting, something most western countries have heavily restricted or outright banned.

In a country with more firearms in civillian ownership then every other countries military combined, Nobody in the Democratic party believes there was actually an insurrection. If there were, there'd be no place for congress or the senate to hide from the nationwide guerilla warfare.

As has happened so many times in politics, political parties get hijacked. The Democrats have been hijacked by foreign interests, the Republicans are in the process of being hijacked by domestic populists.

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