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Success depends on emotion management

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Re: Success depends on emotion management

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There are millions of people having such problems with motivation, attitude and experience lack of success, so these kind of blogs give them exactly what they want to hear. I wasted ton of time on such publications as I was under impression that if only I change my thinking then suddenly I'll get on right track. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. What helped me the most is realising that making mistakes is just…

>millions of people having such problems with motivation Presumably the clicks are why such pointless articles continue to be written.

And at the end, their own lives can be sold back to them. It's such a cynical and disgusting sleight of hand. I think it's unethical.

Re: Success depends on emotion management

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It doesn't say anything about the inverse. You can simultaneously believe success is determined by yourself and failures are just bad luck. It's positive thinking. Some enjoy it, some don't.

> It doesn't say anything about the inverse. Interpreted as a literal propositional statement, it's saying "if you have a good attitude, then you will have success". Therefore if you do not have success, it must be because you did not have a good attitude, which is your fault. It's the contrapositive, right?

If you take "determines" to mean "is the sole determining factor ... at a given instant" then yes. But with a more conventional reading, unless you define a time-frame, deny randomness or otherwise specify an outcome - no. "Will have" is a stronger rephrasing, but even with this wording it wouldn't necessarily blame your attitude as long as you're alive (and if one believes in afterlife the promise may as well never expire).

Re: Success depends on emotion management

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post #9

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> Telling young people that the world is ruled by a clique of powerful old white men who conspire to keep them oppressed must be crushing, especially if done incessantly. If you're a young white man with a fighting chance of becoming one of the next generation of powerful old white men, I can understand where you might find that unnecessarily demoralizing. But for everybody else, it's the bitter truth they neverthele…

> If you're a young white man with a fighting chance of becoming one of the next generation of powerful old white men, I can understand where you might find that unnecessarily demoralizing. Is this really the only situation where you think this is demoralizing? Not for women or minorities who are told they will never have a chance of making it anywhere because they're not white men? Personally I think that's pretty d…

Parent quotes the grandparent saying "unnecessarily demoralizing" then proceeds to drop the modifier, thus changing the claim, and then doubts the newly-created straw man.

Re: Success depends on emotion management

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post #9

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> Telling young people that the world is ruled by a clique of powerful old white men who conspire to keep them oppressed must be crushing, especially if done incessantly. If you're a young white man with a fighting chance of becoming one of the next generation of powerful old white men, I can understand where you might find that unnecessarily demoralizing. But for everybody else, it's the bitter truth they neverthele…

Reminds me of reading a story someone wrote about the epiphany they had when their therapist finally told them "the world does not wake up in the morning to fuck you "

That person must have been married to the world for a while already, then.

Re: Success depends on emotion management

#56

This is such an important lesson. The high order bit in any success is the decision to go for it. Determination is more important then anything. I worry greatly, about how young people today are thought, that's the world is stacked against them and especially for minorities and women. Its true that the world is a very unfair place, but to change it we need encouragement, not horror stories.

> Determination is more important then anything. No, it's really not. If what you were saying was true, everyone who wanted to be a financially successful artist would be. The truth is there are such things as supply, demand, process, practice, mastery and logistics. To over-anthropomorphize these things based on "determination" is naive and hyperbolic. The truth is that consistency matters a lot more. I stopped list…

> No, it's really not. If what you were saying was true, everyone who wanted to be a financially successful artist would be.

You got it wrong. Determination does not at all equal success. It equals the possibility of success. If you dont decide to try to be an artist, you wont be an artist, garanteed. If you give up because you think its hard, then your attitude have made you fail, not some external force.

I'm not treating anyone with kids gloves, I'm sayng: Quit focusing on how the world is unfair, and try to make the changes you want to make. I am, and so have the people who made the world the way it is.

Re: Success depends on emotion management

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> Determination is more important then anything. No, it's really not. If what you were saying was true, everyone who wanted to be a financially successful artist would be. The truth is there are such things as supply, demand, process, practice, mastery and logistics. To over-anthropomorphize these things based on "determination" is naive and hyperbolic. The truth is that consistency matters a lot more. I stopped list…

> No, it's really not. If what you were saying was true, everyone who wanted to be a financially successful artist would be. You got it wrong. Determination does not at all equal success. It equals the possibility of success. If you dont decide to try to be an artist, you wont be an artist, garanteed. If you give up because you think its hard, then your attitude have made you fail, not some external force. I'm not tr…

> You got it wrong. Determination does not at all equal success. It equals the possibility of success. If you dont decide to try to be an artist, you wont be an artist, garanteed

Not only are you wrong, but you're completely ignoring the experience I just told you about. Why would you do that, unless you cared more about feeling that you're right than actually seeing what reality is? The experience I just stated is pretty common with all of my musician friends, which proves my point -- not only are you tonedeaf, patronizing, and treating people with kids gloves on, but you're just plain wrong, and you don't even care that you're wrong.

As I told you, I actually decided that I no longer wanted to try and be an artist. I gave up. And it's precisely when I gave up that something deep inside me began to form. Over time, some deep, subconscious force began to build, to push out of me an extraordinary compulsion to create. I didn't even want it to; I felt that I didn't have the determination to do it and so I wouldn't be an artist -- and that was "guaranteed" as you (and much of society) seem to imply -- but that's BS.

It turns out that what made me an artist had absolutely nothing to do with determination, and everything to do with my journey as a dynamic, evolving human being. Someone who goes through setbacks, someone who gives up, someone who is imperfect, someone who struggles. But fundamentally, someone is honest about reality, who doesn't varnish it -- not to themselves, not to others.

Paradoxically, by giving up and yielding, I gave my internal narrative and creative mental ground the time and space to lay fallow and become fertile to create actually great art. This is what you miss in your rush to focus on determination. You miss the exact mechanism by which artists are formed. You oversimplify it into an extremely facile sense of cause and effect, and in doing so, you completely miss the forest for the trees.

You have proved my point.

Re: Success depends on emotion management

#58

This is blogspam written by someone who lacks the credentials to write it. Let's assume success pertains to careers, or achievements in the real world. Your judgment, decisions, timing and environment determine your success. There are an exceptional amount of folks with foul attitudes who are immensely successful. There are also an exceptional amount of folks with great attitudes who remain destitute and unsuccessful…

"Man is a credulous animal, and must believe something; in the absence of good grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones."

Anyway yeah people get offended when you question their beliefs, no matter how silly. Belief is tied to identity, and they feel insulted when you point out their beliefs' absurdities. So you get downvoted.

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