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Re: Amazon Fresh Opens in London

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Post by dogma1138 »

uncledave wrote: post #30

If it’s like their Morrisons service it’ll all be bashed to shit and half of it missing.

Somewhat true but they refund you easily, the substitutions are more annoying TBH because often they are very weird since they are done by the shopper rather than by the distribution center.

Half the people in a given Morisons in London are now Amazon shoppers, I’m not sure what’s Morrisons plan with this colab is I would guess that the Amazon shoppers piss off the regular shoppers quite a bit because they are everywhere pushing huge trollies with like 20 Amazon bags to fill and Amazon will dump Morrisons the moment their grocery supply chain will be strong enough and they’ll have enough repeating customers.

Re: Amazon Fresh Opens in London

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Post by pizza234 »

1123581321 wrote: post #40
pizza234 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When fruit is sold loose, people will pick individual fruits up and select them; at the end of the days, there will be much more ruined fruit and general leftover. I've seen middle grounds where the box itself was made with waxed cardboard (with wrapping). Not sure if this is necessarily better. Only few items I've seen are sold in unwaxed cardboard (and I suppose it depends on the food contained). I don't know how t…

It's better to have leftover fruit than to use plastic. Solve the leftover fruit problem with marked down bags if they can't be put to some other purpose.

> It's better to have leftover fruit than to use plastic.

As I wrote, this is not obvious. Leftovers require energy and resources to produce, transport, and possibly destroy. Energy and resources imply pollution.

This is very similar to the plastic vs. glass problem. One intuitively thinks that glass is better, but when transport pollution is included in the equation, glass is not necessarily better anymore.

Re: Amazon Fresh Opens in London

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Post by jfengel »

samatman wrote: post #35
chrisseaton wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Pickles are 'gherkins' Only pickled cucumbers are gherkins. You wouldn't call a pickled egg or onion or whatever else a 'gherkin'.

While this is correct, in American vernacular 'pickle' without qualifications is precisely a gherkin.

My understanding was different. In the US, if you ask for a "pickle", what you'll get is about 3-4 inches long. If you ask for a gherkin, it's likely to be more like 1-1.5 inches long.

The "-kin" suffix is diminutive. Etymology isn't destiny, but I think most American speakers think of gherkins as smaller than pickles.

Wikipedia is a little confusing on the subject. It confirms that gherkins are small, but also "up to five inches". Which is indeed small for a cucumber, but cucumbers bigger than 5 inches are rarely pickled (they get mushy).

So the notion of gherkins as "small pickled cucumbers" seems vague, and I think people disagree, but I don't know the geography of that disagreement.

Re: Amazon Fresh Opens in London

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Post by 1123581321 »

pizza234 wrote: post #52
1123581321 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's better to have leftover fruit than to use plastic. Solve the leftover fruit problem with marked down bags if they can't be put to some other purpose.

> It's better to have leftover fruit than to use plastic. As I wrote, this is not obvious. Leftovers require energy and resources to produce, transport, and possibly destroy. Energy and resources imply pollution. This is very similar to the plastic vs. glass problem. One intuitively thinks that glass is better, but when transport pollution is included in the equation, glass is not necessarily better anymore.

I would agree it’s not necessarily obvious, but the solutions to use all food transported are local, and consistent traits that cause produce to degrade over, over time, identified earlier so those pieces can be diverted to byproducts more cheaply. Additionally, there’s that hands-on produce sells better which achieves public health goals and arguably reduces consumption of more environmentally damaging foods. There are multiple layers of misleading intuition to consider.

Re: Amazon Fresh Opens in London

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Post by samatman »

jfengel wrote: post #53
samatman wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this is correct, in American vernacular 'pickle' without qualifications is precisely a gherkin.

My understanding was different. In the US, if you ask for a "pickle", what you'll get is about 3-4 inches long. If you ask for a gherkin, it's likely to be more like 1-1.5 inches long. The "-kin" suffix is diminutive. Etymology isn't destiny, but I think most American speakers think of gherkins as smaller than pickles. Wikipedia is a little confusing on the subject. It confirms that gherkins are small, but also "up t…

The small ones we call "cornichons" but they're a "pickle", "pickled cucumber" is a redundancy you would seldom hear.

And yes, if you get a "gherkin" in the USA it will be on the small side, but "gherkin" in the Commonwealth is just any (cucumber) pickle.

Re: Amazon Fresh Opens in London

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Post by wooger »

pizza234 wrote: post #21
shalabajser wrote: post #15

Everything is wrapped in plastic, most of it non-recyclable. This is not progress.

When fruit is sold loose, people will pick individual fruits up and select them; at the end of the days, there will be much more ruined fruit and general leftover. I've seen middle grounds where the box itself was made with waxed cardboard (with wrapping). Not sure if this is necessarily better. Only few items I've seen are sold in unwaxed cardboard (and I suppose it depends on the food contained). I don't know how t…

The wasted fruit has already been thrown away by the store in the case of Amazon.

Fruit and veg just doesn't need wrapping - but you do want a way to keep stuff you're going to eat raw from touching gross stuff.

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