I thought Utah was a GOP state? What happened to 'small government'? This seems like shoving gov't down your throat.
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Utah bill would require activated porn filter software on new phones, tablets
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#52>“One of the most difficult challenges I work with are the effects from pornography,” Gibson said. “Average age of first exposure, which is often accidental, is 10 to 11 years old. Anything we can do to help prevent that puts us in a proactive rather than a defensive position.
If the most difficult part of your job is teaching kids about sex, you're doing your job wrong.
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#53> “Because (children) are not developmentally ready to handle [porn], it leads to the problems of depression, anxiety and all the problems that go with that including and up to its most extreme form, suicide ideation and attempts,” Gibson said. Is this true? I have a young child and have a hard time imagining she would view porn as anything other than strange or bad being done by other people. I don't think she would…
Ah, the old "think of the children" method to get censorship bills passed. Works every time.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean... yes? Just pre-installing/enabling some parental control filter on phones is way cheaper than even losing out on a few millions worth of sales. It's pretty trivial to do since those filters already exist. It will probably end with retailers having to do that at the time of sale, but still, it's perfectly possible.
Doing that when building these devices at scale and handling support queries for it is probably not cheap. Most phone manufacturers don't allow retailers to tamper with the software on the phones/tablets (that opens up a can of worms in terms of security), so they'd have to do it very early, maybe even at the factory — which means earmarking which devices are bound to Utah. Responsible manufacturers (e.g. Apple) woul…
Every single phone manufacturer sans apple allows this. Ever heard of Verizon bloat ware?
And yes, they will comply, 1) it’s the law, and 2) they won’t leave money on the table.
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#55I thought Utah was a GOP state? What happened to 'small government'? This seems like shoving gov't down your throat.
This is a clear violation of the first amendment, right?
There is a lot of case law surrounding obscenity, and courts have ruled that bans on obscenity do not necessarily violate the first amendment (there are a variety of tests involved). The rationale never seemed sound to me, but somehow I have not been appointed to the Supreme Court.
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#56> require location tracking for any device activated in Utah So if I was driving through Utah and my phone was wiped, the manufacturer would have to push a porn filter down for it to be legal?
Not really. The penalty is if a minor happens to use your activated-in-the-state device to access adult content.
If you, an adult, activated it within the state and you, the adult, were the only one using it for anything (including porn) there'd be no penalty, if I understood the legislation correctly.
If you the adult owner activate the device and then deactivate the filter and then a minor uses it to access porn, there's no penalty either.
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#57I thought Utah was a GOP state? What happened to 'small government'? This seems like shoving gov't down your throat.
It's only big government when they do it.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
UT has more overbearing regulations than any other state. They are also far and away the most conservative state. Not all conservatives in the US are aligned with them, it’s just that the cult majority have regulatory capture.
> UT has more overbearing regulations than any other state Like what? Are you referring to alcohol laws? Because last I checked you could still by beer at the grocery store in Utah, but you cannot do that in Montgomery County, Maryland (most populous county of one of the bluest states).
Hey I live in MoCo and yeah all the liquor stores are run by the county, and they aren't even open on Sunday. Such a joke
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#59I thought Utah was a GOP state? What happened to 'small government'? This seems like shoving gov't down your throat.
This has probably more to do with the Morman church in Utah than the GOP.
(FYI it's Mormon*, named after the Book of Mormon)
However, (also FYI), adherents prefer if you refer to the church as "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" and members of said church "Latter-day Saints" or simply "Christians".
I know "Mormon" is a long-standing nickname and most people don't intend to use the term derogatorily, but calling Latter-day Saints "Mormons" is like nicknaming Muslims "Mohammeds" or "Qurans" or nicknaming Islam "the Mohammed Church" or "the Quran Church".
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#60Does Utah actually have that much market power? Could manufacturers just stop selling to Utah?
Alternatively, could they close stores/facilities in Utah, and still sell to Utahans online? Commerce clause seems like it'd protect that.
I don’t think commerce clause protects that, otherwise CA’s laws wouldn’t have so much sway in the market.