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Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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There's something about Okta that just scares me. If Okta is ever compromised, so are the thousands of companies that rely on it for IdP. How do companies mitigate this risk? Or do they?

I have okta accounts with a few companies and they all require 2FA. I hope Okta is configured so that if Okta itself were compromised, the 2FA would still be required to leverage the authentication vectors in okta.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

#52
post #21

Wow, I wonder if this will create some space for a new competitor? I mean apart from these 2, who else are a serious option for rock solid SaaS IdP?

I recommend SuperTokens https://supertokens.io/

Not having any 2FA makes it a non-starter for a lot of people.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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post #6

Wow. These guys were basically 1 and 2 when it comes to enterprise auth/CIAM. It's great news for the businesses, but will likely only decrease competition in the marketplace. There's a ton of second tier competitors out there with plausible offerings who are probably going to start consolidating to stay alive.

I know it doesn't cover everything Auth0 and Okta presumably provide, but Keycloak is OSS and has RedHat support, and is honestly one of the best IDPs I've ever used in terms of capabilities and friendliness. I know there's also the ory suite in the more cloud-native/recent space, though I can't personally speak to its maturity.

Maybe I'm biased by the large bank I currently work at, but in general, it seems like IAM is the last thing we really want outsourced/closed source and monocultured. If they lose the motivation to stay ahead of the competition, and stop responding to vulnerabilities as quickly as they ought to, it's not just their company that loses.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

#57

There's something about Okta that just scares me. If Okta is ever compromised, so are the thousands of companies that rely on it for IdP. How do companies mitigate this risk? Or do they?

If Okta is ever compromised, they have a team of people working 24 hours a day to deal with it as quickly as possible. And, of course, to prevent it from happening.

When it comes to security, it's often a pretty good idea to put all of your eggs in one basket, and then make sure it's a really, really good basket. Unless you're certain you can make a better basket yourself -- and when it comes to auth, there are a lot of ways to make bad baskets -- it's better to use somebody else's basket.

It's not perfect, but I know I'm not an expert in auth. I use Auth0 and then get on with the rest of my work.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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post #50

I hope this gives rise to another, smaller viable party outside of Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. Perhaps I'm jaded, perhaps hopelessly biased - but I can only see this as a net negative. Okta's open source packages receive a pitiful amount of attention (for example: https://github.com/okta/okta-oidc-js/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%... ) with forks almost becoming a requirement. Auth0 by contrast has been "on the ball" for…

Regulators should block this merger. Consolation is strangling capitalism in this country.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the difference is that the scope of DynamoDB is limited. A breach in authentication could result in the complete compromise of a company.

I suspect that a breach of most companies AWS accounts would lead to a complete breach of that company. Somewhere in the mountains of data stored in an AWS account and all it's associated EC2 instances and backups on S3 will be credentials or information to thoroughly breach all other systems.

You literally just made this up based on nothing

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...who else are a serious option for rock solid SaaS IdP? Google Cloud (Firebase Auth), AWS (Cognito), and Azure (Active Directory) are as rock-solid as they come. FusionAuth.io, userbase.com, and clerk.dev come to mind as well.

Azure Active Directory leaves much to be desired. If it was not a MS product it would struggle to attract a market.

AAD implements SAML, OIDC, SCIM, LDAP, Kerberos, FIDO2 and more. Even if it was not a Microsoft product, it would have better non-proprietary interoperability than most other SSO platforms.
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