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Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by KDJohnBrown »

CryptoPunk wrote: post #28

Hopefully cryptocurrency payments is an option. ZK-Rollups now enable Visa scale throughput for payments on Ethereum so crypto is primed for widespread usage. Linkedin could stick with USDC, which is an FDIC insured USD-backed ERC20 token, to avoid the volatility associated with crypto-assets, while providing a more seamless globally accessible alternative to the legacy banking/payments system. EDIT: privacy is still…

Normally I would scoff at this, but having had to physically chase down customers before over bounced checks, I could really get behind something unreturnable like cryptocurrency.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by kube-system »

oblio wrote: post #15
chovybizzass wrote: post #2

excellent. fiverr is nothing but trash and upwork only has tops 25/hour jobs in usa. need a legit gig site.

> upwork only has tops 25/hour jobs in usa Honest question, but for IT stuff, why would it have stuff over $25/hour? It's going to be remote work, anyway, so there will be someone, somewhere, in a country with a lower cost of living, that will work for that money or even less. It's only normal that Americans won't be able to compete, over time :-)

Yet, Americans still compete at the high end of contracting work. Sometimes it's not the code itself that ultimately matters, it's the solution as a whole.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by Griffinsauce »

Gustomaximus wrote: post #38
seanwilson wrote: post #31

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…

I use a client like this for new freelancers/employees that are working full time or larger jobs. It is intrusive but 100% is needed for some people or they take the piss. I'm too busy to follow their workload and sit there estimating times of jobs match hours. I check it one a week for ~10min to see hours logged per day and quick random to check its not loads of time wasting. It feels intrusive but there is little d…

What if I sketch out a solution to a complex problem for most of the day and then execute it in an hour?

This will only catch the most ridiculous abuse that will be visible from results as well and harm everybody else.

And, if it's not visible in the results... why do you care?

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by Jommi »

seanwilson wrote: post #31

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…

If you don't do this as a quality worker, you're basically subsidizing for those that on purpose try to do lower quality work.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by orangepanda »

firechickenbird wrote: post #50
seanwilson wrote: post #31

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…

As far as I know, monitoring like this is illegal everywhere in Europe

Source?

There are products especially for europe that do monitoring like this.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by BjoernKW »

Gustomaximus wrote: post #38
seanwilson wrote: post #31

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…

I use a client like this for new freelancers/employees that are working full time or larger jobs. It is intrusive but 100% is needed for some people or they take the piss. I'm too busy to follow their workload and sit there estimating times of jobs match hours. I check it one a week for ~10min to see hours logged per day and quick random to check its not loads of time wasting. It feels intrusive but there is little d…

The underlying problem here isn't people taking the piss but a system optimised for people taking the piss.

You optimise for time wasted rather than value created.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by ryannevius »

Ayesh wrote: post #8

I used to be a freelancer, finding work mainly on Upwork, and I loathe them now. What started as a 10% commission was upped to 20%, and they tried to do various tricks on both clients and freelancers to a point that I stopped doing freelance work altogether. It was a great platform, and I don't think a 10% clear cut wasn't enough for them for an organic growth. Another thing I loathe is LinkedIn. I'm sure many people…

Sounds like we are/have been in the same boat. Are you working full time now? If so, was the pivot motivated by your dissatisfaction with the client acquisition process?

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by input_sh »

seanwilson wrote: post #31

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…

Precisely why I only negotiated fixed price projects.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by NiceWayToDoIT »

Gustomaximus wrote: post #38
seanwilson wrote: post #31

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…

I use a client like this for new freelancers/employees that are working full time or larger jobs. It is intrusive but 100% is needed for some people or they take the piss. I'm too busy to follow their workload and sit there estimating times of jobs match hours. I check it one a week for ~10min to see hours logged per day and quick random to check its not loads of time wasting. It feels intrusive but there is little d…

This is one more example of terrible management. Mistrust, too much control and micromanagement are totalitarian ways of push management that do not work with thinking and creative working force. Unless what you do is already known pattern coding and repetitive work, which does not include the left or right side of the brain, the above approach may work. Maybe in movies, you can put a gun to a hacker's head and say you have 1 minute to crack this, but in reality, that does not work. Solving problems takes time, and art-wise, to get inspiration, it takes even more time. "Slacking" time is necessary to produce a good solution...

So, you give a difficult problem to your employee, he gets stressed it is difficult, but now he needs to pretend to be busy to satisfy boss, he is even more stressed as he does not have time to think about solving the problem, but he needs to think about being busy... I can see people spiraling into mental health problems.

I just remembered, at the beginning of my career, one of my coworkers got a request from a client: we need something, we need it urgently, so make it and make it interesting by tomorrow noon.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by altairmn »

LinkedIn has a clear advantage here over the other freelancer marketplaces (Fiverr, and Upwork) especially in the unsaturated specialized knowledge sub-fields of technology. Although this feature will be gamified, in the first year at least, the freelancers (assuming they are existing LinkedIn Users) available on the platform will have:

  1. Somewhat reliable employment history
  2. Similarly reliable educational credentials
  3. Code contribution metrics available via a Github integration
  4. Reviews provided by authentic customers who also have LinkedIn accounts
A simple verification process here will ensure that the reviews are authentic, thereby ensuring trust in the ratings of each freelancer.
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