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Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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I actually met Len in 2010/2011 when he was visiting the Dartmouth cs dept! We talked about noodlers being an excellent fountain pen ink and some stuff around functional programming that overlap with the language base security ideas Sergey Bratus and Meredith Patterson went on to popularize. I also have a distinct memory that he had a very well decorated walking cane. Edit: I do think that this post, while having val…

I worked with him at PGP in 2000.

wtf was this downvoted for?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#52
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked with him at PGP in 2000.

Do you have any opinion about whether he could be Satoshi?

Dunno, Len was a crazy smart dude, and total crypto geek. That said, I didn't work with him much, I was just handed off to his project for a few weeks while waiting for one of mine to ramp back up.

I guess the best way to sum it up is that if he was Satoshi, i wouldnt be shocked.

Also, sux hes gone.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#53

It’s kind of hard to believe that given the amount and technical forensic evidence that must have been left by Satoshi we don’t know who they are. Coding style and mannerism. Windows, Mac, Linux? IP addresses or user agent logged anywhere (mailing list)? Comment structure and style. Git / SVN commits. English writing style and mannerism. Digital fingerprints. Surely there must be a technical trail to investigate.

> Surely there must a technical trail to investigate.

The probably is, but I'm guessing the really definitive records would probably require a subpoena to obtain (e.g. business records of the domain registrar or hosting company).

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#54
post #25

Pretty sure Len thought Bitcoin was a profound abortion of an idea: https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/77358901774917632 > Right; why would they [mention Bitcoin in the cypherpunk panel on digital currencies], though? Bitcoin pretty much fails as a cypherpunk protocol. https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/81121594373709825 > That only works if you want to leave the inflated value of Bitcoin on the table; otherw…

None of those tweets point to anything close to a "profound abortion of an idea" - in fact, I think these are almost supporting the claim. "we could do BitCoin right" and "it fails as a cypherpunk protocol" could be simple self-critiques or misdirections or even sly jokes. Saying bitcoin has an inflated value also doesn't mean this person didn't create it. Didn't Elon just recently say Tesla is way overvalued?

The Unix vs Windows argument is pretty silly. And as mentioned in other comments, the 2014 email is generally regarded as not legitimate.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#55
post #25

Pretty sure Len thought Bitcoin was a profound abortion of an idea: https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/77358901774917632 > Right; why would they [mention Bitcoin in the cypherpunk panel on digital currencies], though? Bitcoin pretty much fails as a cypherpunk protocol. https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/81121594373709825 > That only works if you want to leave the inflated value of Bitcoin on the table; otherw…

I'd argue that none of these are mutually exclusive with Satoshi's own beliefs.

Satoshi seemed to think BTC was getting too much attention too fast. They were unhappy about WikiLeaks accepting it thinking it was far too premature for that.

They also were clear that it did NOT yet provide full anonymity. The whitepaper admits that and Satoshi advised precautions like using Tor and not reusing wallets until there was better privacy. They never claimed it was mature for privacy use cases.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#56
post #50

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Thats a serious sci-fi plot right there. Man cryonically freezes himself after inventing a cryptocurrency, wakes up in the far future the richest man in the world.

Bitcoin is already pretty freaking sci-fi-plottish.

The whole Satoshi mythology is to me one of the greatest modern mysteries.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Thats a serious sci-fi plot right there. Man cryonically freezes himself after inventing a cryptocurrency, wakes up in the far future the richest man in the world.

Guessing you haven't seen Futurama. Not the same exact plot of course, but I immediately thought of it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fishful_of_Dollars

Yes I've seen that episode. The crypto/most wealthy man in the world thing would be a variation of that.

They'd also be the typical Human Popsicle tropes about how horrified he'd be by how his creation was used.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#58
post #38

My money (er, bitcoin) is on Hal Finney. I knew Hal from occupying the dorm room next to mine at Caltech. Being Satoshi is just the kind of elaborate prank Hal would have loved. Besides, I've never met anyone as smart as Hal, and I've met a lot of smart people. In his last interview (when he could no longer speak) he was asked if he was Satoshi, and he just grinned. As for where the missing bitcoins are, my bitcoin i…

It's like people always imagine aliens would appear in the middle of NYC. Maybe Satoshi is a South African student in Glasgow, who moved back with his family to Germany and is shaking his head at BTC's evolution now that he grew up beyond "bruh banks bad" ? He did an overly inefficient distributed linked list, which is replicated thousands of times by smaller projects to yield exactly the same value (the "bruh banks…

Banks are bad

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#59
My Bitcoin is on the government(s) and their security agencies. Satoshi is just a moniker they concocted in order to hide the fact that this is a government project through and through to be able to move fund around into and out of various economies and destabilize weaker ones. Also as a result of beng there in the beginning they have a huge amount of currency to do stuff with that will never be accounted for. Only reason it makes sense in our world as to why this stuff has not yet been banned and why Satoshi's identity is so well hidden.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any opinion about whether he could be Satoshi?

Dunno, Len was a crazy smart dude, and total crypto geek. That said, I didn't work with him much, I was just handed off to his project for a few weeks while waiting for one of mine to ramp back up. I guess the best way to sum it up is that if he was Satoshi, i wouldnt be shocked. Also, sux hes gone.

Just checked in with a coworker/friend who was there with me. He also wouldn’t be surprised if Len was satoshi
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