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K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't be any less of a lawyer, but that sounds OK to me. One is not required to accept the license merely by virtue of it's having been published under that license, but this is surely compatible with the author adding extra conditions to run their program if they so wish?

The copyright holder is not bound by the license granted to others, so in general is legally permitted to add any additional restrictions. However, as this particular additional restriction is not one of the additional restrictions that GPL3 section 7 permits, section 10 applies to anyone other than the copyright holder, which states "You may not impose any further restrictions on the exercise of the rights granted o…

Thanks for enlightening me :)

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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I wanted to give a quick shoutout to Hey [0] while giving K-9 a potential solution. Hey is fiercely approaching email like no other email client has in decades. It is a fundamental shift in the way we interact with email. For anyone who hasn't tried it, you're missing out on what email can be. They have a free trial but it isn't free nor is it ad supported or backed by a VC, which brings me to the point about funding. You shouldn't be sorry about charging your customers or feel only if some investor would give you money all your problems would go away. I gladly pay for Hey because it solves a real problem elegantly, sure it's not perfect, I still have to have my gmail on the side as sort of a backend to my email experience, but the problems it solves are well worth paying for. So if K-9 provides real value where no other email client provides the same level of value then their users should be more than happy to pay for it, I know I would. But if it provides some esoteric feature like PGP where even those who use it don't really know why they do and most certainly would not pay for then sure maybe you do need outside funding.

[0] hey.com

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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K-9 is a really great mail app for android! In my opinion it's the best app if you want to use a custom SMTP/IMAP server instead of using a solution like hotmail/google/etc. It also has PGP support (with the help of OpenKeyChain to manage certificates) that works great! There are no other well known solutions for applications supporting PGP in Android; this is huge. People that either want to avoid walled gardens or…

> the best app if you want to use a custom SMTP/IMAP server instead of using a solution like hotmail/google/etc IMHO, it's also the best if you're using Gmail: Google has been breaking its UIs for years (both on the app and on the web), especially for people like me who try to use proper quoting and signatures, or to send plain text emails. Apart from some glitches with reflow, K-9 does that very well even with Googl…

jesus christ gmail is absolutely unusable both on the desktop and on mobile.

the only way to make it usable again is to switch to the plain html mode, that uses no javascript, loads very fast, and reminds me a lot of the first gmail ui, back from ~15 years go.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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K-9 Mail is like, the _only_, sane e-Mail Android app out there. Pitching in for sure.

Not the only one - I started using Nine a year ago, after switching from something else that has been abandoned (I forget the name, but I'd been using it for years because it supported bypassing Exchange security lock down).

Absolutely love Nine - it works marvellously with my own IMAP and SMTP servers, my work O365 etc. And everything in the UI is configurable. I think Nine is actually the only Android app I've ever actually paid for - highly recommended it.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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post #53

I wanted to give a quick shoutout to Hey [0] while giving K-9 a potential solution. Hey is fiercely approaching email like no other email client has in decades. It is a fundamental shift in the way we interact with email. For anyone who hasn't tried it, you're missing out on what email can be. They have a free trial but it isn't free nor is it ad supported or backed by a VC, which brings me to the point about funding…

While I really enjoy Hey, I think a $99 per year price tag is insane. You‘ll likely use your email for tens of years to come, so that‘s multiple thousands of dollars for a software that doesn‘t need to change. Running a mailserver isn‘t expensive, either. It could as well be an email client with a one-time payment, in my opinion. Would I pay $99 once and use it with my existing providers? Sure! Would I pay yearly and switch all my emails so that I am basically trapped inside a subscription? No...

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at the beta versions yet? The UI was overhauled over basically the last 1.5 years and the points mentioned in the blog post are the bits missing to release that as a stable version (IMAP IDLE mostly): https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases I've been running the betas since more than a year without any problems whatsoever. (If you don't need push obviously)

Thanks for the tip, the GitHub release makes a real difference compared to the outdated version on the Play Store. It's sad that there is not many reliable email client alternatives to GMail that works with custom server.

You can subscribe to the beta channel on the play store, too

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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post #56
post #53

I wanted to give a quick shoutout to Hey [0] while giving K-9 a potential solution. Hey is fiercely approaching email like no other email client has in decades. It is a fundamental shift in the way we interact with email. For anyone who hasn't tried it, you're missing out on what email can be. They have a free trial but it isn't free nor is it ad supported or backed by a VC, which brings me to the point about funding…

While I really enjoy Hey, I think a $99 per year price tag is insane. You‘ll likely use your email for tens of years to come, so that‘s multiple thousands of dollars for a software that doesn‘t need to change. Running a mailserver isn‘t expensive, either. It could as well be an email client with a one-time payment, in my opinion. Would I pay $99 once and use it with my existing providers? Sure! Would I pay yearly and…

Running email isn't expensive neither is breathing air while walking to work, but that misses the point. They had to build a product to make email less crazy that has real value and it takes massive effort and creativity.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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PSA: if you've not used it in awhile, use the betas via F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.fsck.k9/ You have to click "Versions" from the F-Droid app and specifically opt-in (and upgrade) the betas, F-Droid will default to installing the older stable version.

The betas are almost night (mode heh) and day apart, the UI and operations have almost a complete overhaul from the old days and it looks (and works) really great on my Android 11 device. This isn't K-9 Mail on your T-Mobile G1 anymore, it's a brand new day for the betas.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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K-9 is a really great mail app for android! In my opinion it's the best app if you want to use a custom SMTP/IMAP server instead of using a solution like hotmail/google/etc. It also has PGP support (with the help of OpenKeyChain to manage certificates) that works great! There are no other well known solutions for applications supporting PGP in Android; this is huge. People that either want to avoid walled gardens or…

I'm a little miffed that this comment has a better explanation of "why I should care about K-9 Mail" than anything I could find from deliberately looking for that information on their site. The "about" page just talks about the team, and their blog posts, even the one "what's up with K-9?" just talk about release schedules.
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