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Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30M That It Can’t Sell

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Re: Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30M That It Can’t Sell

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Post by Semaphor »

michaelg7x wrote: post #44
blub wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the downvoted comment explains, there's good quality masks coming out of China and there's tons of questionable quality masks. Differentiating between the two is difficult if not impossible. Personally I am using some Chinese made masks every now and then from a reasonably well known company, but they are CE certified FFP2 masks. Still prefer big brands when I can get them though, but they're still ridiculously ex…

I'm sure you're aware -- but I was very surprised to find out -- that the European CE certification mark was _quite_ so similar to the younger China Export Mark: https://www.ybw.com/vhf-marine-radio-guide/warning-dont-get-...

Also note that it’s an urban myth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#China_Export

Re: Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30M That It Can’t Sell

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Post by pessimizer »

londons_explore wrote: post #13
OJFord wrote: post #4

> The problem is getting consumers to their retail websites. At the moment, anyone trying to buy N95 masks on Google Shopping or Facebook Marketplace is greeted with a blank page; on Amazon, a search for N95s yields a welter of vendors hawking KN95 masks, a Chinese-made equivalent that researchers say is less effective. > “How is it that you can spread conspiracy theories on Facebook, but we can’t sell N95 masks to t…

We should remember that the certification processes for medical stuff are very long and extensive, yet even so a mask that allows 5% of air to leak round the edge of the mask will pass the certification! Given that, I have no issues with using a fake mask. My manual fitting effort to reduce leakage around the mask will have far far more impact on health outcomes than the exact specifications of the way the ear straps…

What assurance would you have that a product "mostly works" other than a certification by professionals? If we rely on common sense, we might as well all drink bleach.

Re: Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30M That It Can’t Sell

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Post by pessimizer »

onethought wrote: post #27
_v7gu wrote: post #25

Thankfully they are not valved, people who wear valved masks are worse than anti-maskers.

Some people have actual breathing conditions (pollution sensitive, allergies etc) that require a proper sealed mask, without the valve the seal will often break. Valves with a diffuser cap that stops the air jetting out are probably the best if you have this restriction.

If those people need a proper sealed mask now, they also needed a proper sealed mask before covid-19. In actuality they were not wearing a mask at all unless they were either Japanese or usually in a hospital/nursing home/hospice and on a short trip outside to see a specialist.

That being said, I have breathing problems and the combination of masks and cold weather is awful. I'd love to wear something that released the moisture. It wouldn't be nice to the people around me, though, and I can just get away from people to take a break if I need it.

Re: Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30M That It Can’t Sell

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Post by blub »

Semaphor wrote: post #50
michaelg7x wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you're aware -- but I was very surprised to find out -- that the European CE certification mark was _quite_ so similar to the younger China Export Mark: https://www.ybw.com/vhf-marine-radio-guide/warning-dont-get-...

Then they might as well use the real logo as the CE mark for medical equipments also has to include the standard tested for, and the lab which did the certification (for Chinese masks that’s 99% a lab in Turkey)

What's up with Turkey? Recently bought German made masks and they were CE certified by a Turkish company/organisation.

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Post by djtnynrkfmf »

OJFord wrote: post #4

> The problem is getting consumers to their retail websites. At the moment, anyone trying to buy N95 masks on Google Shopping or Facebook Marketplace is greeted with a blank page; on Amazon, a search for N95s yields a welter of vendors hawking KN95 masks, a Chinese-made equivalent that researchers say is less effective. > “How is it that you can spread conspiracy theories on Facebook, but we can’t sell N95 masks to t…

You can buy FFP3 masks for 5-10 quid each (depends on exact model) in UK from specialized PPE stores, like:

https://www.protectivemasksdirect.co.uk/

This is a legit store with legit masks, it existed before the pandemic.

In general, if someone is looking for FFP2/FFP3/N95 masks, search for personal protection equipment stores in your country, not Amazon/eBay/...

Re: Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30M That It Can’t Sell

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Post by whalesalad »

This guy isn’t hustling as hard as he should be. If you can’t get deals because of the old boys club of buyers and suppliers you gotta do some guerrilla marketing.

Learn which hospitals are struggling with masks. Lease a bunch of U-Haul/Ryder trucks and fill them with masks. Park them in front of the hospitals with massive banners on the side: “50,000 made in USA n95 masks inside. Call 555-555-5555”

Pretty soon you’ll be selling every mask you make.

Or start selling direct to consumer using marketplaces like Amazon.

Re: Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30M That It Can’t Sell

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Post by [deleted] »

whalesalad wrote: post #57

This guy isn’t hustling as hard as he should be. If you can’t get deals because of the old boys club of buyers and suppliers you gotta do some guerrilla marketing. Learn which hospitals are struggling with masks. Lease a bunch of U-Haul/Ryder trucks and fill them with masks. Park them in front of the hospitals with massive banners on the side: “50,000 made in USA n95 masks inside. Call 555-555-5555” Pretty soon you’l…

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Re: Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30M That It Can’t Sell

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Post by iguy »

zajio1am wrote: post #36

I do not really understand why hospital workers and others that use masks daily for whole shift still use single-use N95 masks and not half-face respirators with reusable filters, like 3M 7500 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5zbj3_ezqE ). They are more comfortable and fit much better.

I don't know either, but lots of stuff in hospitals is disposable, because this is easier than figuring out a system to disinfect & re-use it.

Although perhaps that makes more sense in an operating theatre than many of the lower-risk places people now wear them, all day.

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