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Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by john_cogs »

PurpleFoxy wrote: post #16
rockooooo wrote: post #2

"So in moving it to GitHub, we’re finding that a lot of things are just nicer because a large paid staff of engineers is working on it every day. And I grew up during the heydey of the Free Software Foundation, so I know this is a trap, but I’m tired and don’t have the energy to be a server admin for something that’s held together with scotch tape and prayers when I’m really supposed to be writing OpenGL code." This…

Wonder why they did not pick GitLab since it is significantly better for FOSS ideals and has the same niceness of GitHub

GitLab team member here. For anyone considering a similar move, I encourage you to check out our GitLab for Open Source program: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by qbasic_forever »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #40
jmercouris wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A much better UI. Git won because of the influence of the Linux kernel developers, that's all.

Not only that, but GitHub came early and made the hosting easy. There was no similar offering for hg that early on.

Github wasn't created until 2008, and in those early days there were big limits on hosting (very limited number of repos per user, even public ones). The everything free, everything easy all you can eat buffet that you see on Github today is a much more recent change. Back in '05 almost everything OSS was on source forge and Google Code, both of which offered super easy hosting, discussions, etc.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by throwaway3699 »

klodolph wrote: post #46
d1zzy wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be popular at Facebook.[1] Where I work Mercurial has been an option for some time now (no Git unfortunately) and coming from Git I must say I really love how it does some of its things: - hg split: split a commit into as many different commits as you like using an interactive patch editor (you can fold/collapse hunks, can edit them textually, can select which lines of the hunk should be applied). It will au…

Mercurial is used at Facebook, but it is heavily customized and goes through Phabricator. Just like Google uses Piper, which is “like Perforce” and goes through Critique.

Not quite. Google also has an internal mercurial tool (layered over perforce/piper), and I think it's the more popular tool at this point.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by the_jeremy »

PurpleFoxy wrote: post #16
rockooooo wrote: post #2

"So in moving it to GitHub, we’re finding that a lot of things are just nicer because a large paid staff of engineers is working on it every day. And I grew up during the heydey of the Free Software Foundation, so I know this is a trap, but I’m tired and don’t have the energy to be a server admin for something that’s held together with scotch tape and prayers when I’m really supposed to be writing OpenGL code." This…

Wonder why they did not pick GitLab since it is significantly better for FOSS ideals and has the same niceness of GitHub

I use GitLab at work. My experience is that it has more features that work less well. There are a bunch of comments pointing to a GitLab issue to explain stupid hacks in our CI/CD pipelines.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by encom »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #42
swatson741 wrote: post #18

I've worked on SDL although I haven't contributed any code. Partly because it isn't convenient to contribute and partly because I felt that the work I did wasn't significant enough to merit jumping thru the hoops to contribute. The move to Github is a very welcomed change. > One reason we hadn’t considered a move to GitHub before now is that this project has had a policy of owning all its infrastructure. This is stil…

I think GitHub is generally safe as long as you have an exit plan for when it's no longer the place you want to be. Know where you're moving your issues and actions if you decide you need to leave.

Since the Microsoft takeover, the platform is compromised. It seems people have very short memories.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by truncate »

d1zzy wrote: post #12
talhah wrote: post #3

I've never heard of mercurial until this post, I've been using git for version control and it does the job really well. To those who use mercurial over git, why?

Seems to be popular at Facebook.[1] Where I work Mercurial has been an option for some time now (no Git unfortunately) and coming from Git I must say I really love how it does some of its things: - hg split: split a commit into as many different commits as you like using an interactive patch editor (you can fold/collapse hunks, can edit them textually, can select which lines of the hunk should be applied). It will au…

I heavily use Magit on Emacs to edit my patches interactively. It is my favorite way to interact with Git.

I think Visual Studio Code has something of its own. Would be great to have that part of the Git command line, but I guess shouldn't be hard to make one, considering its already out there on so many IDEs.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by zokier »

rockooooo wrote: post #2

"So in moving it to GitHub, we’re finding that a lot of things are just nicer because a large paid staff of engineers is working on it every day. And I grew up during the heydey of the Free Software Foundation, so I know this is a trap, but I’m tired and don’t have the energy to be a server admin for something that’s held together with scotch tape and prayers when I’m really supposed to be writing OpenGL code." This…

Personally I find this far more worrisome signal of the health of foss ecosystem than the quibbles between elastic and amazon.

To me the idea of software "by hackers for hackers" and scratching your own itch has always been one of the key attractions in FOSS ecosystem, but somehow now our itches seem to have outgrown our ability to scratch then. Doing almost anything yourself feels impractical these days.

This is also why I like sourcehut, it represents to me sort of downshifting movement in the world that seems to be so very overspeeding. But I do feel that sr.ht does need certain almost monkish attitude to be satisfied with the austere facilities.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by saagarjha »

einpoklum wrote: post #45

It seems to me people don't give enough thought to the possibility of hosting themselves elsewhere, and only "mirroring" onto GitHub for the presence effect. GCC does this (edit: LLVM half-does-it, in that issues are handled elsewhere). So does MonetDB and I'm sure there are a million more examples.

The GitHub repository for LLVM is the official one: https://llvm.org/docs/Proposals/GitHubMove.html

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by postalrat »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #27
livvelupp wrote: post #20

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Just be aware that "boomer rant" creator made one of the most highly successful and used game development libraries in history. I would wager 75% of the games in your steam library use or depend on SDL in some way. Almost certainly most of the games from your childhood that you cherish and love have used SDL too. You should probably be thanking them for creating something that gave you joy at one time, and giving it…

Thinking takes effort.
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