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Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Wow. Almost feels like a bait and switch. GitLab is now completely uncompetitive with GitHub in terms of price structure. 4-5x on monthly cost.

Github is deeply subsidized by Azure's marketing budget and benefits from larger scale. Gitlab can't compete head-to-head; they'll have to pivot or partner soon.

They just last week announced a partnership with IBM: https://www.ibm.com/products/gitlab-ultimate

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

#52
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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about Bitbucket?

I don't know. But I am desperate to find a good github alternative, so thanks for the suggestion. But at the same time isn't it quite easy to set up a github server?

Gitlab CE is pretty easy to set up using Docker.

I'm unsure of how big the divide on features is.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

#53
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have an entire team of people responding on social and I wanted them to be the DRI https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-group/directly-resp... I think the blog post with me as the author https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/01/26/new-gitlab-product-... and the FAQ https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/faq-new-product-subscriptio... answer most questions. But happy to answer any other questions.

That was not the point. I was commenting on my perception of your different level of engagement. And a quick search with algolia justifies that : there are very little Gitlab threads where you have been absent.

That is true, and I was reading a lot yesterday.

Because of the expected volume we had a different process for responding on social yesterday and I wasn't part of that group.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

#54

We're currently using the starter edition for exactly one reason, ldap integration. Now we're supposed to pay $240 / employee for an ldap integration?! Not sure what we'll do but I suspect scripting some ldap integration into our gitlab will be one of the best spent times in terms of ROI for me this year.

$240 a year (per engineer) to keep your engineers focusing on providing product value is beyond paying for itself. Building custom in house tooling always costs 5x more than engineers believe, and ultimately doesn't improve your end product. This kind of tooling would probably require at least 100 engineers to justify the innate cost of building and maintaining it.

At 1000 engineers, that's a fulltime engineer to support the "ldap+gitlab community fork"...

Realistically that takes a lot less than a fulltime engineer to support.

Of course this assumes no other value is acquired from the license, but if we take the comment at face value it seems worthwhile to just add it yourself.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

#55
>The company's pricing handbook states reassuringly that "when in doubt, we will default to moving features to a lower tier" but the effect of the change is that any features in Bronze that are not in the free tier have been moved up.

This means they have no doubt in this particular case.

I guess we also can doubtlessly deduce what to think then.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

#56
post #34
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about Bitbucket?

I don't know. But I am desperate to find a good github alternative, so thanks for the suggestion. But at the same time isn't it quite easy to set up a github server?

Might want to have a look at: https://sourcehut.org/

> But at the same time isn't it quite easy to set up a github server?

I suspect a typo here - is on premise github a thing? [ed: judging by other comments github enterprise allows self-hosting - but unlike gitlab there's no Free software version]. Fwiw setting up a gitlab server is indeed quite straightforward.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

#58
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Everyone who are finding the pricing too high: care to share why you're not hosting/running your own gitlab instances?

We're hosting our own instance but we need a feature that is not available in the free version

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

#59
post #57

Everyone who are finding the pricing too high: care to share why you're not hosting/running your own gitlab instances?

Hosting it yourself does not give you any extra features. You still need to pay (the same price) for the premium features. The only benefit to self hosting is you have complete control of your data (which is important to some companies)

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

#60
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$240 a year (per engineer) to keep your engineers focusing on providing product value is beyond paying for itself. Building custom in house tooling always costs 5x more than engineers believe, and ultimately doesn't improve your end product. This kind of tooling would probably require at least 100 engineers to justify the innate cost of building and maintaining it.

At 1000 engineers, that's a fulltime engineer to support the "ldap+gitlab community fork"... Realistically that takes a lot less than a fulltime engineer to support. Of course this assumes no other value is acquired from the license, but if we take the comment at face value it seems worthwhile to just add it yourself.

Sounds like good side business idea. Good engineer could create it over weekend, than sell licenses and do support.
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