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Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by throw1234651234 »

ludwigvan wrote: post #32

Has anyone here given this a try: https://gettingstronger.org/2010/07/improve-eyesight-and-thr... https://gettingstronger.org/2014/08/myopia-a-modern-yet-reve... It claims that myopia can be cured, just like muscles can be made stronger in a gym.

I have been reading about myopia fixes through exercise for years. I see no significant evidence that its possible. I can't find an example of a SINGLE person in history that fixed the issue. E.g. Aldous Huxley never really did, despite writing the book that all current methods are based on.

On the other hand, doing a single-arm chin up seems impossible and takes a decade. Enough funds have not been put into research.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by ysw0 »

ludwigvan wrote: post #32

Has anyone here given this a try: https://gettingstronger.org/2010/07/improve-eyesight-and-thr... https://gettingstronger.org/2014/08/myopia-a-modern-yet-reve... It claims that myopia can be cured, just like muscles can be made stronger in a gym.

Anecdote: I used to get new glasses/prescriptions every year. Every year my prescriptions would get stronger. Last couple of years I stopped renewing my glasses and whenever I absolutely need to get new glasses, I have the store use my old prescription. For whatever reason, my eye sight stopped getting worse. I think by wearing stronger prescriptions, your eyes adapt to it and you get more and more myopic.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by CubsFan1060 »

pnutjam wrote: post #34
GrantZvolsky wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My optometrist said that wearing glasses would speed the slide This is a myth widespread among opticians and optometrists. I have discussed it with those who treated me and not a single one could provide any evidence.

Speed the slide = you notice

That's the interesting part to me. I have very very very slight glasses. If I never put them on, it's fine. If I've been wearing them, and THEN take them off, everything looks horrible.

I mostly only wear reading glasses at work.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by lucb1e »

ysw0 wrote: post #53
ludwigvan wrote: post #32

Has anyone here given this a try: https://gettingstronger.org/2010/07/improve-eyesight-and-thr... https://gettingstronger.org/2014/08/myopia-a-modern-yet-reve... It claims that myopia can be cured, just like muscles can be made stronger in a gym.

Anecdote: I used to get new glasses/prescriptions every year. Every year my prescriptions would get stronger. Last couple of years I stopped renewing my glasses and whenever I absolutely need to get new glasses, I have the store use my old prescription. For whatever reason, my eye sight stopped getting worse. I think by wearing stronger prescriptions, your eyes adapt to it and you get more and more myopic.

Warning to anyone taking the above as medical advice: perhaps it might work for you, but do discuss with your doctor and check that you are not driving vehicles with worsening sight while believing it's fine. By all means try it, but get it checked so at least you have the data to know whether it works for you.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by lern_too_spel »

jdtang13 wrote: post #44
retrac wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, there's some evidence that very rigorous, regular eye exercises can help delay or even slightly reverse myopia. Slightly. If you give yourself a headache for like an hour a day, every day. And the effect goes away when you stop exercising. This is something that has been studied pretty extensively. If it was actually a cure, it'd have been well-proven by now, and we'd al…

> This is something that has been studied pretty extensively. If it was actually a cure, it'd have been well-proven by now, and we'd all be doing it. Untrue and faulty reasoning. It may have been studied extensively on biased populations, or the research may not have been funded adequately. Anyways, this is part of the "myopia is purely genetic" zeitgeist which is shoved down all of our throats in the west. Meanwhile…

Urban schools in China and Taiwan used to mandate daily eye exercises in classrooms. There was no effect. It wasn't until Taiwan started requiring more outside time for children that they were able to reverse the myopia trend.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by dmitryminkovsky »

ysw0 wrote: post #53
ludwigvan wrote: post #32

Has anyone here given this a try: https://gettingstronger.org/2010/07/improve-eyesight-and-thr... https://gettingstronger.org/2014/08/myopia-a-modern-yet-reve... It claims that myopia can be cured, just like muscles can be made stronger in a gym.

Anecdote: I used to get new glasses/prescriptions every year. Every year my prescriptions would get stronger. Last couple of years I stopped renewing my glasses and whenever I absolutely need to get new glasses, I have the store use my old prescription. For whatever reason, my eye sight stopped getting worse. I think by wearing stronger prescriptions, your eyes adapt to it and you get more and more myopic.

How do you get stores to use your old prescription? I’ve had no luck with that.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by hangonhn »

jdtang13 wrote: post #44
retrac wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, there's some evidence that very rigorous, regular eye exercises can help delay or even slightly reverse myopia. Slightly. If you give yourself a headache for like an hour a day, every day. And the effect goes away when you stop exercising. This is something that has been studied pretty extensively. If it was actually a cure, it'd have been well-proven by now, and we'd al…

> This is something that has been studied pretty extensively. If it was actually a cure, it'd have been well-proven by now, and we'd all be doing it. Untrue and faulty reasoning. It may have been studied extensively on biased populations, or the research may not have been funded adequately. Anyways, this is part of the "myopia is purely genetic" zeitgeist which is shoved down all of our throats in the west. Meanwhile…

To add to your point, https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/05/asia/myopia-east-asia/index.h...

In addition, wasn't there a study that found Australia children of Asian descent don't follow the same trend of myopia? IIRC, the researchers found that Australian children tend to spend a lot more time outside and get more natural sunlight. I wish I could find the original article.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by simlevesque »

jdtang13 wrote: post #46

The "myopia is purely genetic" zeitgeist has been continually shoved down all of our throats in the west. Meanwhile, studies from Taiwan, Japan, and Korea show that myopia truly has an environmental component to it, e.g. childhood eyestrain and video games. It's also undeniable that myopia manifests more in middle class workers than working class, which indicates some sort of systematic environmental component. Since…

I have bad myopia (around -5) both my parents have it too and to me it has always been evident that it isn't purely genetic. I think I could willfuly downgrade my vision if I concentrated.
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