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"Friday night one of the top trending tweets on Twitter was 'Hang Mike Pence.' But AWS has no plans nor has it made any threats to suspend Twitter’s account." Is this true?

Twitter has a moderation policy and applied it. Parler didn’t and didn’t apply anything. Edit: also fuck everyone related to Parler. Read in detail: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-p...

This just isn't true. We can argue whether or not Parler was not moderating correctly - but to imply they did not have a policy against violence is not true:

6. Threats of Violence, Advocacy of Imminent Lawless Action, Threats to Dox, Bribery or Criminal Solicitation

So-called “fighting words” are not a violation of our Guidelines.2

6.1 However, reported parleys, comments, or messages sent using our service will be deemed a violation of these Guidelines if they contain:

6.1.1 a “serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to aparticular individual or group of individuals,” with either the intent or reckless disregard as to whether the communication will “place the victim in fear of bodily harm or death.”

6.1.2 an explicit or implicit encouragement to use violence, or to commit a lawless action,such that: (a) the Parleyer intends his or her speech to result in the use of violence orlawless action, and (b) the imminent use of violence or lawless action is the likelyresult of the parley, comment, or message

6.1.3 a threat to dox anyone for any reason.

6.1.4 an offer to give or receive money, or other goods or services, in exchange for (a) afavor from any public official, or (b) the commission of any illegal action by anyone

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

#52
I don't know if people trying to argue that twitter is just as bad as Parler are doing it out of ignorance of the issues or just bad faith.

Parler isn't being dropped by private companies because a user said something mean on their service. They're being dropped by AWS, Apple, Google etc because they allow, even encourages its users to conspire to commit violence and assassinate public officials.

The main reasons its users went to Parler in the first place is because they weren't allowed to do that on twitter and reddit.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False equivocation. This did happen but Twitter promptly banned this and variants [1]. Parler is failing / refusing to moderate. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/10/hang-mike-pe...

EDIT: I see you changed your post from "Parler is refusing to moderate" to "Parler is refusing/failing to moderate". The post below is an answer to "Parler is refusing to moderate". This is false. Parler has also been banning accounts explicitly calling for violence. I encourage you all to read the complaint: > AWS knew its allegations contained in the letter it leaked to the press that Parler was not able to find an…

Amazon cited a long string of specific violent posts that they themselves reported to Parler and that Parler didn't remove.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is weird to me that we people seem to be saying "These 4 companies need to be broken up". They are already 4 companies. It seems different than say, the Bell breakup, which was one company.

Technically its 3 companies. Facebook owns instagram.

Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

#56

I have seen so many violent threats and incitements on Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, and Instagram over the last 5 years that Parler could possibly make the case that they've been singled out, but I doubt it. They're just too unsympathetic of a plaintiff, imho. That said, antitrust battles against Big Tech will dominate the next four years of economic policy, and rightfully so. GAFA is too big, too powerful, too manip…

Yeah but these threats were actually carried out. Not the first time for Parler either, as I recall.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

#57

Paragraph 5 seems pretty damaging if AWS really did violate their contract as claimed.

IANAL, but from what I understand, contract law is below criminal law priority-wise.

If you knowingly were to provide meeting rooms for people plotting a coup or violence, I think you'd still be on the hook for something much greater than breach of contract, which is a civil claim.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Paragraph 5 seems pretty damaging if AWS really did violate their contract as claimed.

> "Doing so is the equivalent of pulling the plug on a hospital patient onlife support. It will kill Parler’s business—at the very time it is set to skyrocket."

I don't know if they can hold that true that people will be signing up per "skyrocket" metaphor. They can use past data, but cannot use unknown future data.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

#59

"Friday night one of the top trending tweets on Twitter was 'Hang Mike Pence.' But AWS has no plans nor has it made any threats to suspend Twitter’s account." Is this true?

Twitter has a moderation policy and applied it. Parler didn’t and didn’t apply anything. Edit: also fuck everyone related to Parler. Read in detail: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-p...

Are you sure about that? I almost sure I read somewhere that Parler has a policy that prohibits incitement of violence.
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