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Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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Re: Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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Love the article, but what is this site? I can't find any info on Polish News or who runs it. No about link and all social media links are empty.

Just checking the article, it's a scraped auto-translation of a polish article: https://tvn24.pl/poznan/poznan-malze-filtruja-wode-sprawdzaj...

So it seems to be one of those content-farm sites, similar to the ones responsible for disseminating fake news on social media

Re: Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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Whatever it is, it seems like we should put some GPS and transmitters on those clams and put them online.

IoM: Internet of mollusks. I know we’re being tongue in cheek, but I do wonder if there is anyway to actually use them as online sensors without causing too much undue harm?

If there’s anything I love about working in the IoT space, it’s the variety of applications people work on.

I’m pretty sure we’ve seen shrimp farming applications but no mollusks yet.

Re: Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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The water being crystal clear looks cool, but it's an ecological disaster for larger fish in the food chain that depend on the turbidity of the water for ambushing smaller fish.

wrong. The great lakes has been an ecological experiment since the St. Lawrence seaway was opened and continued to be that when the Chicago river was reversed. There are almost no "native" species left in any of the lakes (excluding superior). If you want sustainable native great lakes ecology you need to cut them off from the oceans, re-reverse the flow of the Chicago and do a one-off massive trout and other native…

It’s true it’s been an experiment since the St. Lawrence Seaway was opened, but there are plenty of native species left in the Great Lakes.

This includes everything from walleye, lake trout, and perch all the way down to daphnia and diatoms.

The problems for native species in the Great Lakes has been driven by the introduction of zebra mussels, quagga mussels, the round goby, and spiny water flea (bythotrephes) for native food sources.

These new species have interrupted the food chain and therefore the reproductive fitness for many native species which further decimates the natural Great Lakes ecosystem.

Re: Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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This is an odd form of cross species slavery. It’s one thing to agree to the conditions and another to force it upon life.

This... has a lot to contemplate. Service dogs don’t agree but there is an essence of joy there. Can you feel a clams emotions? I guess at this point you get close to the contemplation of plant life.

There’s one thing to kill life and use it for food and then another to use it as a test for poison. There’s probably more nuances. I’m not taking a stance that any of these things are wrong. I am however trying to make sense of the consequences of these pieces of the architecture of life that we participate in.

Re: Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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This is an odd form of cross species slavery. It’s one thing to agree to the conditions and another to force it upon life. This... has a lot to contemplate. Service dogs don’t agree but there is an essence of joy there. Can you feel a clams emotions? I guess at this point you get close to the contemplation of plant life. There’s one thing to kill life and use it for food and then another to use it as a test for poiso…

Very unscientific claim on my part, but I'm sure it doesn't make them better off to be restricted to servitude for another species.

Re: Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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I am squeamish about eating any used filters: bivalves of any sort (and other filter feeders), liver, kidney... People have been doing so for a long time which is why I use the term "squeamish" which implies some lack of rationality. I thought oysters were "purified" by putting them in a bucket of clean water overnight. Myth?

I don't know if it's rational or not, especially since I'm sure there are plenty of microplastics and pollutants in everything else, but I've completely removed filters & anything whole like shrimp from my diet. I enjoy shrimp and scallops, but honestly I feel like given my current knowledge it's not worth it. Maybe we'll find out that all the microplastics in the ocean are totally fine, but better safe than sorry in…

Are the microplastics just in the ocean though? I thought they were turning up just about everywhere now, even human placentas[0]

[0]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041202...

Re: Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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I don't know if it's rational or not, especially since I'm sure there are plenty of microplastics and pollutants in everything else, but I've completely removed filters & anything whole like shrimp from my diet. I enjoy shrimp and scallops, but honestly I feel like given my current knowledge it's not worth it. Maybe we'll find out that all the microplastics in the ocean are totally fine, but better safe than sorry in…

Are the microplastics just in the ocean though? I thought they were turning up just about everywhere now, even human placentas[0] [0]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041202...

That’s why I mentioned I’m sure they are everywhere, so maybe I’m overcautious.

At the same time though I’m certain any marine life is subjected to way more micro plastics than those on land. So consuming anything that functions as a filter is gonna have high concentrations of it. At least that is my logic.

Re: Clams filter the water and check whether the water is polluted or clean

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever it is, it seems like we should put some GPS and transmitters on those clams and put them online.

IoM: Internet of mollusks. I know we’re being tongue in cheek, but I do wonder if there is anyway to actually use them as online sensors without causing too much undue harm?

Straight out of Accelerando.
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