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An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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Windows remains the most popular operating system for computers by far, and that will never change.

I suppose that depends on how all gazillion AWS instances running Linux counts.

AWS instances run Windows too. And MS makes money off those instances. Also, Azure runs Linux too. Microsoft is in the post-Windows phase and it's working on things that will keep it relevant long term

Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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No, it doesn’t. You like the pay but hate the person. Many of us have been there before. You eventually get fed up and have to move on.

having been employed by an asshole in a previous life, a good enough paycheck makes it manageable. Not saying its healthy tho; I think somepeople have simply mastered the 'embrace the suck' mentality when it comes to toxicity...they call that 'resilience'

I now realize how lucky I am to have worked with great people. The worst job I had was just boring.

Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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Depends on how much I got paid.

No, it doesn’t. You like the pay but hate the person. Many of us have been there before. You eventually get fed up and have to move on.

If the money is exceptional, the longer you stick it out, the more freedom you have to leave at a time of your choosing to pursue your next adventure.

Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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Windows remains the most popular operating system for computers by far, and that will never change.

Only if you play some jedi mind tricks of your own with the definition of a "computer".

You don't need to change the statement much to make it unequivocally true: just change "computers" to "desktop computers".

Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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I used to think I would do pretty much anything I didn't find immoral for a million dollars per year. An abusive boss for 80+ hours per week changed my mind. When I quit my third job, my boss told me "Karl, I know you hate me now, but in a couple years, you'll be making a million dollars a year and love me." My response "Even if I believed you, I wouldn't do this job for a million dollars".

Let me guess: You wouldn’t have ended up making a million dollars a year.

Maybe I would have. We were trading interest rate and foreign exchange derivatives in 2006. 2008 / 2009 would have been very volatile. We were generally long volatility, but sometimes we had some legs on some trades that would make significant losses in extreme volatility. It's hard to say. It's possible our 4-person desk could have made 100 million and my boss would have thrown a few my way. It's also possible the desk would have folded.

I still think I made the right choice by leaving. You have to live your life, and unless you really love your job, 80+ hours per week in the office is not living your life.

Also, I left that macro quant job by calling up Google and asking if they'd re-open the job offer I turned down 4 months earlier. It certainly helped that I had good backup jobs available.

Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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nah. I think Balmer did wonders for Ms. It’s really easy to blame the guy but I think it’s important to look at the context (of when he took over, what he actually did) also, he is the only CEO I routinely saw at the “corporate gym” in Redmond before the pandemic struck. No bodyguards, no nothings. Like a regular dude going to the gym, hanging out in the sauna/jacuzzi. He had a super positive attitude towards the sta…

He botched Microsoft pretty bad.. windows 8 was his hallmark project no? And the beginning of surface was not that good. Once Satya took over Microsoft became a powerhouse again with their cloud/office integration + focus on azure.

And yet, azure and office 365 were both created under Ballmer.

Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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Do you want to expand?

when Ballmer took over MS was right after the anti-trust fiasco. There was a time when people were not sure if the software giant was going to survive. They did under Ballmer. From a sales pov, the company also grew and prospered. Microsoft had phenomenal growth while under Ballmer. It's easy to remember all the things he botched (hello iphone?) but if you look at it objectively I think Ms did survive and prospered u…

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Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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Do you want to expand?

when Ballmer took over MS was right after the anti-trust fiasco. There was a time when people were not sure if the software giant was going to survive. They did under Ballmer. From a sales pov, the company also grew and prospered. Microsoft had phenomenal growth while under Ballmer. It's easy to remember all the things he botched (hello iphone?) but if you look at it objectively I think Ms did survive and prospered u…

> It's easy to remember all the things he botched (hello iphone?) but if you look at it objectively I think Ms did survive and prospered under Ballmer.

If you look at it objectively you include all the things he botched, which are "easy to remember" according to you. At best, he was meh. In my personal opinion he was horrible - I think a random employee likely would have done better.

Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project

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Depends on how much I got paid.

No, it doesn’t. You like the pay but hate the person. Many of us have been there before. You eventually get fed up and have to move on.

Not just the paycheck. If your boss is mean and stupid all the time, you'll learn so little from them, the net work experience you got from the job become a negative.

In my opinion, a good boss can be loud, but must also smart and willing to hear, learn and teach, which are essential if you want to increase productivity and get your team full of smart and idea generating people together.

If you work for a mean and stupid boss, not only you'll work in hell, if the business failed due to their mistake, they'll probably put failure on their employees. Which is really bad if their false words got into the ears of your next recruiter.

Life is short, if something is obviously bad, don't try it.

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