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More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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For those interested in a different measure that is much more suited to athletes:

A body fat calculator that requires just a tape measure.

You measure your height, waist and neck (as a man).

http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Nav...

The site is in 90's retro style. You can click on the question mark at the bottom left to see an explanation of all fields.

Someone with BMI of 27 ("overweight") and 16% body fat ("fit") and no belly (but no six-pack either)

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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BMI isn't a reliable indicator to gauge obesity. For example, Tom Brady at 6' 4" and 225 lbs is considered overweight, which is obviously not the case. That being said, as an American, it really did shock me how fit the majority of people were in Italy when I visited there for the first time last year. This New England Journal of Medicine chart really does a good job of showing that America has gotten heavier over th…

Literally the exception that confirms the rule.

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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BMI isn't a reliable indicator to gauge obesity. For example, Tom Brady at 6' 4" and 225 lbs is considered overweight, which is obviously not the case. That being said, as an American, it really did shock me how fit the majority of people were in Italy when I visited there for the first time last year. This New England Journal of Medicine chart really does a good job of showing that America has gotten heavier over th…

Why, how many Americans have the figure of Tom Brady? Is that number big enough to have a meaningful impact on average BMIs? I don’t understand why everyone is so quite to dismiss BMI based on edge cases, especially when the finding is backed up by your other evidence.

It makes it so that people don't have a strong sense of what a healthy version of themselves is, and can assert that they must be healthy "as they are".

I've found Body fat % to be a more useful number, it's easy to understand what you'd look like with 10% less body fat - and you won't see many/any athletes with 30%+ body fat. When I first started tracking this I was shocked by the initial number (35%) and managed to work it down to 17% over time, my total weight didn't change by more than 5%.

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Body positivity" is -- inadvertently for the most part -- insidious. Of course, don't make fun of overweight people for being overweight, don't be an asshole. However, making people people believe that they can eat whatever they want, can be obese and still healthy doesn't help at all. It might make you feel nice, but it is very destructive and unhelpful in the long run.

> but it is very destructive and unhelpful in the long run. If the United States ever moves to a public-funded healthcare regime, it will also be more expensive and destructive to care for from a government budget perspective.

False!

Unhealthy people are great for saving money. Health care costs are disproportionately skewed towards end of life care. People who are unhealthy die younger and more quickly.

Edit: Here you go. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748...

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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I still remember driving through some small town in Arizona 10 years ago, and I couldn't find a single non-obese person there. Not just overweight, full on obese. Parents, kids, everyone. It was the one of the most bizarre experiences I've had, as a visitor. Cities are not that bad though, but I'm sure many rural parts are close to 100%.

I've only ever visited San Francisco in the US, and the first time I was there I was slightly surprised that in terms of obesity it seemed pretty similar to Dublin (which wouldn't be the thinnest city around, but is middle of the road European). Then I flew back via O'Hare, and really saw the difference when waiting for the transfer; quite dramatic levels of obesity.

I wonder how much of it is just down to urban Americans walking places, and rural and suburban Americans less so.

I did also notice that there was added sugar in virtually _everything_.

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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Isn’t it strange how the only way to eat healthy food in America is to cook it yourself? Every fast food restaurant is unhealthy. Most sit down restaurants are unhealthy. I can pay someone to change my oil, I can pay someone to cut my grass, but for some reason cooking healthy food, the most essential service, is difficult to find. Why has our economy failed us in this sector specifically?

Not just that, but even if you cook it yourself, it can be hard to find certain things that are healthy, almost everything has added sugar, or sugar concentrates for example, and a lot of produce are adulterated and so arn't even the real thing, like some Olive Oils.

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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Isn’t it strange how the only way to eat healthy food in America is to cook it yourself? Every fast food restaurant is unhealthy. Most sit down restaurants are unhealthy. I can pay someone to change my oil, I can pay someone to cut my grass, but for some reason cooking healthy food, the most essential service, is difficult to find. Why has our economy failed us in this sector specifically?

Most every fast food restaurant has reasonably healthy food that few people order. Mcdonalds has chicken burgers. Everywhere has salads (albeit fewer than in 2019 because of food handling concerns in 2020). Subway caters to this heavily in their marketing. You can easily put together a cheap sub with whatever macro/micronutrient combo you want. Also, most supermarkets have a hot prepared food section with very health…

Mcdonalds has chicken burgers.

The cheapest chicken sandwich at McDonald's is slathered with mayonnaise. Of course one can specify that the mayonnaise be omitted, but then one is confronted with the fact that the factory-made chicken patty is fairly unpalatable by itself.

The main question about Subway is which is more disgusting: the food or the way they treat (especially immigrant) franchisees? I can't think of a single item at Subway that qualifies as "cheap" either.

Non-millionaires who seek tasty and healthy food must learn to cook.

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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Obesity is 100x worse of a crisis than covid. We do nothing to change obesity or the lifestyle choices that lead to it.

We need to have a national dialog about obesity that results in some people feeling bad.

Global levels of obesity are set to meet US levels by 2040.

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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BMI isn't a reliable indicator to gauge obesity. For example, Tom Brady at 6' 4" and 225 lbs is considered overweight, which is obviously not the case. That being said, as an American, it really did shock me how fit the majority of people were in Italy when I visited there for the first time last year. This New England Journal of Medicine chart really does a good job of showing that America has gotten heavier over th…

Why, how many Americans have the figure of Tom Brady? Is that number big enough to have a meaningful impact on average BMIs? I don’t understand why everyone is so quite to dismiss BMI based on edge cases, especially when the finding is backed up by your other evidence.

Because it forces people to confront the reality of their obesity and how out of shape they are.

Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony of the BMI is the more I workout to stay in the healthy range, the more difficult it is to stay in the healthy range. Best bet is to sit around not eating anything to be 'healthy' according to BMI.

True, I started weightlifting for three months and my BMI went into overweight territory. I had an athletic build both before and after. Probably good for a lot of people but weightlifting really puts it into question. It's not like weightlifting is something only few men can do; most men can weightlift. Then they end up having healthy body fat levels, but end up with BMI in the overweight category. If something as s…

You don’t lose weight lifting things up and putting them back down. You certainly don’t put any appreciable strain on the CV system.
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