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Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by jasonlotito »

blahyawnblah wrote: post #29
scrps wrote: post #23

Yet you can browse youtube and learn how to build an AR-15 lower reciever, learn tactical shooting, and knife fighting*... But for the love of all things lawful don't explain a buffer overflow or a side-channel attack. I am not suggesting those videos/channels be banned either just pointing the uneven absurdity of YT's policies.

A lot of the gun channels have been de-monitized. Most of them have recorded promotions for various companies as part of the video. Others use patreon to fund the channel.

De-monitized just means advertisers don't want to advertise on those channels via YouTube. It doesn't mean the channel can't find other means of funding itself. It's not YouTube's responsibility to fund a channel regardless of feedback from its advertisers. Simply put, you can't expect free money.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by jasonlotito »

bbarn wrote: post #38
scrps wrote: post #23

Yet you can browse youtube and learn how to build an AR-15 lower reciever, learn tactical shooting, and knife fighting*... But for the love of all things lawful don't explain a buffer overflow or a side-channel attack. I am not suggesting those videos/channels be banned either just pointing the uneven absurdity of YT's policies.

Gun channels have almost all been demonetized. In fact, just about every vertical is "demonetized" in large portions of their content creators. It's almost like youtube is the only one profiting at scale, weird.

YouTube doesn't profit from demonetized channels. Why are these channels entitled to money from people that don't want to give it to them?

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by Ruthalas »

ve55 wrote: post #13
djsumdog wrote: post #5

Looks like he started a channel on a Peertube server, but it has nothing on it yet. I hope he has a backup of all his videos. ALWAYS HAVE A LOCAL BACKUP of all the content you upload to other services. Facebook is not your photo backup. All your stuff could disappear off Google tomorrow. The cloud is literally someone else's computer. The biggest takeaway for all YouToobers is to organize all their videos in a manor…

I would go even further: Always have a local backup of anything on the Internet that is important to you, whether you made it or not, unless you know there are many other accessible versions of it for redundancy. You never know when a large company will delete it without notice. (Is this feasible? Perhaps not, but given how cheap storage is, if this could be even semi-automated, it would easily save a lot of heartach…

If you archive youtube content, consider stopping by my discord server. https://discord.gg/EJvS4kf

I maintain a list of content that various members have archived, such that if anything is removed, people can direct inquiries to people who have archived that content.

It's a small way to keep track of what things have been successfully archived, and direct efforts toward at-risk channels.

(You can see the current list of user-archived content here: https://tinyurl.com/v4rpe9w)

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by slumdev »

d33lio wrote: post #32

YouTube is now a hostile space for creators of any political or social creed that create "edge" worthy content. Plain and simple. If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe. If you produce "hacking" or firearms videos your content is not safe. Maybe some day the millennial generation will end the boomer era mantra of passing legislation federally or adopting policies that censoring content for the ch…

> If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe.

There was a time when a man's bedroom activity didn't enter into his professional life.

I know the idea is difficult for millennials.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

blunte wrote: post #18
seanmcelroy wrote: post #3

It's a mistaken position to believe sharing "how to" information somehow mints cybercriminals; however, this is the position YouTube has repeatedly and is increasingly taking with striking innocent content creators sharing information about how security vulnerabilities work and how to test for them. This type of content is widely available on mainstream online blog sites, in published books, and through established,…

I suspect one big problem for Google is the ignorant politicians and lawmakers/enforcers who think that the dissemination of information which _could_ be used for illegal activities is akin to the promotion of such activities. And since you cannot without great effort educate people who are incapable or intentionally unwilling to learn, the easiest solution is to sacrifice some of your users to placate the idiots. Ma…

All of said people swore an oath to uphold a core document with detailed restrictions on government power. They don't get a say in the dissemination of information.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by reaperducer »

seanmcelroy wrote: post #3

It's a mistaken position to believe sharing "how to" information somehow mints cybercriminals; however, this is the position YouTube has repeatedly and is increasingly taking with striking innocent content creators sharing information about how security vulnerabilities work and how to test for them. This type of content is widely available on mainstream online blog sites, in published books, and through established,…

It's a mistaken position to believe sharing "how to" information somehow mints cybercriminals

How so? I wouldn't have gotten into phreaking in the 80's without Phrack.

However, I think you would be correct if you amended your statement to read, "It's a mistaken position to believe sharing "how to" information solely mints cybercriminals."

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by busrf »

This is the blog associated with the channel: http://codeofhacking.blogspot.com/

And this is the Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/technux0/

On both of those pages, you can see the titles of the videos that were posted. On the Facebook page, you can still see the video thumbnails.

I wonder if YouTube removed his channel for the cybersecurity videos, or if they removed his channel for posting walkthrough videos on how to pirate Burp Suite Pro ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by typenil »

jasonlotito wrote: post #51
blahyawnblah wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of the gun channels have been de-monitized. Most of them have recorded promotions for various companies as part of the video. Others use patreon to fund the channel.

De-monitized just means advertisers don't want to advertise on those channels via YouTube. It doesn't mean the channel can't find other means of funding itself. It's not YouTube's responsibility to fund a channel regardless of feedback from its advertisers. Simply put, you can't expect free money.

> De-monitized just means advertisers don't want to advertise on those channels via YouTube

It means YouTube believes that advertisers don't want to advertise, or that journalists are running hit pieces on the vertical.

It may be correlated to advertiser demands, but the direct causation isn't there most of the time.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by 93po »

hejja wrote: post #49
thatguy0900 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that something YouTube does? I was under the impression demonitized videos had no ads of any kind. As opposed to the copyright system rules where you will get ads but the revenue is diverted to someone else instead.

you are right. demonitized means unsuitable for advertisers, which means no ads.

To clarify - often videos will have ads on them prior to being demonetized. My understanding is that when this happens, YT keeps all of the ad revenue and the creator sees none. Over time this is a lot of money I am sure.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by giantg2 »

Avtomatk wrote: post #40
scrps wrote: post #23

Yet you can browse youtube and learn how to build an AR-15 lower reciever, learn tactical shooting, and knife fighting*... But for the love of all things lawful don't explain a buffer overflow or a side-channel attack. I am not suggesting those videos/channels be banned either just pointing the uneven absurdity of YT's policies.

> I am not suggesting those videos / channels be banned either just pointing the uneven absurdity of YT's policies. I make the same clarifications in each comment I make so as not to receive a wave of downvotes, it is incredible how HN decreases in quality more and more.

I make similar distinctions in some of my comments. Without that distinction, the author's point about inconsistencies may not make sense. The downvotes can sometimes be a symptom of that lack of clarity.
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