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Re: Repairability

#51

Post by forgotmypw17 »

>But to replace the battery, you need to disassemble almost everything (Harddisk, Speakers, CPU, fans, etc.) in a macbook and use chemicals (acetone).

>The Macbook pro will not work without a battery even if it is plugged in an electric power supply.

>The only reason I bought the Macbook pro in 2016 was because I had to do some iOS app development.

Yeah... I'm writing this on my trusty MacBook Air 2011, but this is why I won't touch anything Apple anymore.

I first got a Mac Mini, and then an iPhone, and it seemed nice at the time, so I invested more in Apple...

But the relationship has been turning more and more abusive and controlling since then. If a human abuses me, I distance myself from them and eventually let the relationship fade away. It shouldn't be any different with a corporation.

Re: Repairability

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Post by bitwize »

Inb4 the comments that Apple build quality is "second to none", that Windows and desktop Linux are literally unusable so that the author, who computers for a living, has no choice but to buy Macs and run macOS, and anyway this is just one data point which, like a single stuck pixel on a 4K display, officially does not count against Apple's flawless record.

Re: Repairability

#53

Post by frereubu »

This person may have a point, but I find it hard to read past hyperbole like "Luckily, I did not purchase the touchbar version which probably is one of the worst electronic devices ever manufactured." Sure, he may not like it, but that's such a wild overstatement that I find myself disinclined to read any further.

And seemingly unlike many others giving their anecdata in this thread - a pet peeve of mine on HN, because it's effectively meaningless noise - my 2014 MacBook Pro is still going strong after one battery replacement two years ago, and if it wasn't for the M1s I wouldn't even be thinking about upgrading.

Re: Repairability

#54

Post by frereubu »

lr wrote: post #50

This is the choice quote: "Thankfully Apple is not yet making cars, otherwise, to change Engine oil, we may have to dissasemble the headlamps, engine, transmission, differential, etc." Of course, an Apple car would be an EV and there would be zero user-servicable parts, for sure! I do want to note that, my 2012 Macbook Air still runs, but the battery does indeed need to be replaced. And I fully agree: It would be ver…

My pretty standard Volkswagen Golf is effectively not user-serviceable by me because I know nothing about car mechanics, and don't want to. I think you'll find the same is true for the vast majority of people, so I don't think this is a good analogy.

Re: Repairability

#56

Post by jmholla »

frereubu wrote: post #54
lr wrote: post #50

This is the choice quote: "Thankfully Apple is not yet making cars, otherwise, to change Engine oil, we may have to dissasemble the headlamps, engine, transmission, differential, etc." Of course, an Apple car would be an EV and there would be zero user-servicable parts, for sure! I do want to note that, my 2012 Macbook Air still runs, but the battery does indeed need to be replaced. And I fully agree: It would be ver…

My pretty standard Volkswagen Golf is effectively not user-serviceable by me because I know nothing about car mechanics, and don't want to. I think you'll find the same is true for the vast majority of people, so I don't think this is a good analogy.

You can take your car to not-Volkswagen and get it repaired.

Re: Repairability

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Post by fareesh »

irab wrote: post #49
fareesh wrote: post #14

In countries like India we don't really have too many consumer protections. Apple tends to operate similar to a criminal enterprise - they sell defective products / products which become defective after barely any use. I bought the 2015 Macbook Pro which developed the "staingate" issue. In first world countries, I hear that Apple replaced the screens for customers for free (I'm not sure if this is true or whether it'…

Wait, if you go to an authorized Apple service provider, they HAVE to provide you a with a free screen replacement as long as the device is it's within 4 years of purchase date. Either that or your the screen problem wasn't actually caused by staingate or maybe your device was not eligible for that particular service. It's obviously possible that the person there maybe didn't know about it (he's supposed to though)?…

Regarding Staingate - I checked with a few of them and they said they didn't know anything about it. I got puzzled expressions when I mentioned it.

Furthermore, one of them knew about it and quietly advised me not to do it because it is an extremely harsh and clumsy with scraping of glue and other such steps involved, some of which may inadvertently cause other damage, and so they recommended I just deal with it and upgrade eventually but they were happy to attempt it.

So my choices were to either live with the stains or risk the replacement based on what I was told. I use it with the stains till this day.

Re: Repairability

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Post by frereubu »

jmholla wrote: post #56
frereubu wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My pretty standard Volkswagen Golf is effectively not user-serviceable by me because I know nothing about car mechanics, and don't want to. I think you'll find the same is true for the vast majority of people, so I don't think this is a good analogy.

You can take your car to not-Volkswagen and get it repaired.

Fair point.

Re: Repairability

#59

Post by dugmartin »

fian wrote: post #41

Just ordered a second replacement battery in under 5 years for a Dell XPS laptop due to the battery swelling. The first was replaced under warranty (and the trackpad was also replaced as it had been slightly bent). The laptop is now out of warranty, so I contacted Dell to see about a replacement battery. "Sorry, we don't support laptops more than 4 years old" was the response. The support person suggested I source a…

I've dealt with two swollen batteries on Dell laptops. Both times the laptop was out of warranty but was in the service window. Dell said that the battery was not a "user serviceable part" and would require me to ship the laptop to them with a estimated 2 week repair turnaround.

I ended up buying a battery on eBay both times along with a screwdriver kit with a T5 star bit (I think that was the size) the first time. It takes about 5 minutes to swap the battery.

I just looked in my email and the seller I used was "good-batteries" but it looks like they don't sell on eBay anymore.

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