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Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by sbierwagen »

nametoremember wrote: post #23
sbierwagen wrote: post #14

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That last sentence was some kind of amazingly subtle, spot on, parody, right? This is a troll, right, this is you, trolling me? You didn't just seriously use the phrase "a revolutionary way to establish context with users", unironically. Right?

I don't think there was any need for that tone or the three questions. There is a local Chinese takeaway near me. Walking distant. Before, the only way they could communicate with me is through leaflets in the door. Now I can see their updates in my newsfeed. This _is_ revolutionary. Just because people abuse a phrase doesn't mean it is not relevant.

For a horrifying, timeless moment, I thought you were serious. I thought you were some kind of Paul Carr-level social media twat, and that you genuinely thought that a Chinese restaurant spamming you via facebook rather than via paper was a legitimate advance in technology.

Then I looked at your other comments, and realized that I had just been trolled so hard that it had more in common with a religious experience than ordinary, mortal satire. My vision went gray. I saw angels beckoning me to a bright white place. There was harp music, reasonably priced German beer, etc etc.

You are really amazingly good at this. If someone isn't already paying you to dick with people on the internet, they should be.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by moses1400 »

charlesju wrote: post #43
jaysonelliot wrote: post #31

Of course Vaynerchuk would say that - he's got his own "Social Media Expert" consulting business. http://vaynermedia.com/ "Social media experts are mostly clowns! Except me. You can trust me."

http://twitter.com/#!/garyvee Nothing else, he has 850k followers on Twitter. Mostly organic. I think it is safe to say, 99.5% of "Social Media Experts" do not have 500k+ followers.

Wrong. He got his 850k followers thanks to being on the twitter suggested user list. He hasn't moved at all since the list changed - have a look and see. He is also an investor in Twitter.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by garyvee »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #31

Of course Vaynerchuk would say that - he's got his own "Social Media Expert" consulting business. http://vaynermedia.com/ "Social media experts are mostly clowns! Except me. You can trust me."

Jaysonelliot I so get where you are coming from and I respect it, I really hate how sometimes we don't do a good job explaining where we are coming from and I did that here, I dont want to get business from this I was just referring to the issue at hand that this stuff needs to be looked at from a business sense not just saying here is "social media" I really respect your thoughts and please know if you knew me better you would know I am not coming from that direction at all!

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by garyvee »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #47
charlesju wrote: post #43

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http://twitter.com/#!/garyvee Nothing else, he has 850k followers on Twitter. Mostly organic. I think it is safe to say, 99.5% of "Social Media Experts" do not have 500k+ followers.

How do you arrive at the conclusion that his follower list is "mostly organic?" It's true that having over 500k followers puts you in the top 700 Twitter users. It's equally true that having over 500k followers does not automatically make someone a "social media expert" (Donald Trump, Lindsay Lohan, & Nicole Richie are in that list - I don't think I'd hire them for social media strategy). Is it also true that you can…

my follow count has no merit,the most I have is that I help build a 60 million dollar a year business ect.. again I didn't want to come at this from a bad place, I was trying to start a conversation that should be had

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by garyvee »

moses1400 wrote: post #52
charlesju wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://twitter.com/#!/garyvee Nothing else, he has 850k followers on Twitter. Mostly organic. I think it is safe to say, 99.5% of "Social Media Experts" do not have 500k+ followers.

Wrong. He got his 850k followers thanks to being on the twitter suggested user list. He hasn't moved at all since the list changed - have a look and see. He is also an investor in Twitter.

Moses its true I was on SUL and you bleed a lot of fake accounts, I am investor only by buying stock of Blaine Cook one of the early guys there. I hope u are super well

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by garyvee »

getsat wrote: post #48
charlesju wrote: post #43

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http://twitter.com/#!/garyvee Nothing else, he has 850k followers on Twitter. Mostly organic. I think it is safe to say, 99.5% of "Social Media Experts" do not have 500k+ followers.

He actually replies to every single person who contacts him (via email or whatever medium). Kind of scary.

I try :) I care, context matters and so does intent and I want to engage!

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by garyvee »

code_duck wrote: post #37
arkitaip wrote: post #34

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That's a fallacy. Vaynerchuk could really be part of that 0.5% of social media experts who actually know what they are talking about. Someone has got to and Vaynerchuk has a pretty good track record as an entrepreneur and business strategist.

It wouldn't be a fallacy to say that since he is talking about his competition, he is not an unbiased source of opinions on the topic.

Code_duck I really agree with your overall thesis on this but please know we are a small shop and I am not really looking to take over the social media world, not what i am really looking to do, but thnx for keeping it real!

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by petercooper »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #47
charlesju wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://twitter.com/#!/garyvee Nothing else, he has 850k followers on Twitter. Mostly organic. I think it is safe to say, 99.5% of "Social Media Experts" do not have 500k+ followers.

How do you arrive at the conclusion that his follower list is "mostly organic?" It's true that having over 500k followers puts you in the top 700 Twitter users. It's equally true that having over 500k followers does not automatically make someone a "social media expert" (Donald Trump, Lindsay Lohan, & Nicole Richie are in that list - I don't think I'd hire them for social media strategy). Is it also true that you can…

Is it also true that you can't be a social media expert with

It depends on the niche and market size. I know someone who runs a social media consultancy in the rural area I live who does well out of training people on this stuff and she only has about 800 followers. She's an expert to them, although she's obviously not Gary Vaynerchuk or whatever.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by code_duck »

garyvee wrote: post #57
code_duck wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't be a fallacy to say that since he is talking about his competition, he is not an unbiased source of opinions on the topic.

Code_duck I really agree with your overall thesis on this but please know we are a small shop and I am not really looking to take over the social media world, not what i am really looking to do, but thnx for keeping it real!

That's cool Gary, hope you guys keep on keepin' it real! I was commenting from a theoretical, logical standpoint, not really about you or your company in particular. A touch of that pedantry for which Hacker News is noted. Here, the best kind of correctness is 'technically correct'.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by getsat »

garyvee wrote: post #56
getsat wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He actually replies to every single person who contacts him (via email or whatever medium). Kind of scary.

I try :) I care, context matters and so does intent and I want to engage!

Yup, I gathered that when I read "Crush It!". Great book!
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