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Facebook criticizes Apple’s iOS privacy changes with full-page newspaper ads

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Re: Facebook criticizes Apple’s iOS privacy changes with full-page newspaper ads

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Post by DSingularity »

aminozuur wrote: post #44

I know my comment will get downvoted. But there's a lot of misconception about Facebook, and the other counter-arguments are worth mentioning too. Facebook does not sell our data, in fact, they keep it very secure. Facebook merely allows advertisers to target you based on your interests (which it learns from your activities). Advertisers cannot identify anyone, they just select categories for which they want their ad…

I’m not going to down vote you for being incorrect.

You are wrong because you are focused on FB abalone and ignoring the system. You are wrong because you are focused on what FB exports and ignoring what they import. You are wrong because you are focused on the present and ignoring the past history of abuses.

Re: Facebook criticizes Apple’s iOS privacy changes with full-page newspaper ads

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Post by philk10 »

CubsFan1060 wrote: post #39
violetgarden wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a minimal Facebook account that I wasn’t really using, so I deleted it. Before deleting, I downloaded the third party vendors that Facebook shared data with and was shocked. I almost am never logged in to Facebook and yet here was Home Depot, the company I get face wash from, etc all linked back to my account somehow, and I had no idea.

Interesting. How do you get that information?

probably using this FB tool -https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/28/all-users-can-now-access-f...

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Post by badRNG »

aminozuur wrote: post #44

I know my comment will get downvoted. But there's a lot of misconception about Facebook, and the other counter-arguments are worth mentioning too. Facebook does not sell our data, in fact, they keep it very secure. Facebook merely allows advertisers to target you based on your interests (which it learns from your activities). Advertisers cannot identify anyone, they just select categories for which they want their ad…

> If I must be shown ads, I prefer ads that are relevant to my interests.

Excellent, feel free to Opt-In when given the prompt next time you use Facebook on an iOS device. That's a solution that satisfies everyone's interests.

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Post by judge2020 »

rorykoehler wrote: post #10
acruns wrote: post #4

This feature and fb's hate for it makes me seriously consider moving back to. iOS.

I’m on iOS primarily for this reason. If you don’t want to pay the Apple tax just get second hand devices. I just upgraded to the iPhone 8 and it’s perfect. Feels premium still. Does everything I need.

the SE 2 is also a pretty good price, it's only a generation behind in the processor department (7nm A13), has touch ID (no mask moving for face ID) and is $400 (449 for 128gb). Apple's margins for this device can't be large given the iP8 it's modeled after costed $700 at launch.

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Post by aminozuur »

thih9 wrote: post #50
aminozuur wrote: post #44

I know my comment will get downvoted. But there's a lot of misconception about Facebook, and the other counter-arguments are worth mentioning too. Facebook does not sell our data, in fact, they keep it very secure. Facebook merely allows advertisers to target you based on your interests (which it learns from your activities). Advertisers cannot identify anyone, they just select categories for which they want their ad…

> I prefer ads that are relevant to my interests. A third party company that buys ads will decide on the content. What ads you see will be aligned with their interests, not yours; e.g. if you're a "high earner", you might see ads for more expensive products and no cheap alternatives. If you're "expecting a child", the ads might scare you into buying more child safety products than you need; etc.

It's in Facebook interests to show you ads that you like seeing, or feel are relevant.

Facebook gives you a lot of control to manage your 'interests'. You can do so here: https://www.facebook.com/ads/settings

If you're scrolling your feed and see an ad you don't like, you can click the three dots, and select "Hide this Ad". Facebook learns from this.

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Post by officeplant »

kashprime wrote: post #35

I'm moving away from Android (after 10 years) to iOS for exactly this reason. Not much sympathy for FB on my end.

As a general tech enthusiast I jump back and forth between both ecosystems fairly often, but I have to wonder what's the point? If I'm not running any social media applications what do I have to fear from google not yet having this level of privacy toggling.

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Post by noisy_boy »

As a person who doesn't use Facebook but can't do much beyond that about the shameless privacy invasion they do, their frustration is just _so_ _much_ satisfying. For a moment, I thought of buying a Macbook as my next laptop (only for a moment).

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Post by CubsFan1060 »

CubsFan1060 wrote: post #22
kbos87 wrote: post #19

I have zero sympathy for Facebook. If they claim to care so much about small businesses, they should start by committing to change how they respond to any upstart social app that dares encroach on what they see as their territory. That being said - and it pains me to say this - but there is absolutely truth to the fact that the style of targeting now possible on FB & Instagram has enabled an entire world of very smal…

I'm sure there are a lot of businesses that can exist by knowing everything about me. And, frankly, I think it's ok if they do... as long as they have my permission. The nice thing is that this is what this change does. It makes it more clear who, and what, is sharing information about me. A world where we have apps and websites that pop up with an alert "This website will share information about you with Facebook, e…

Ugh. The more I think about this the more complicated it becomes.

I think most people would be pretty ok saying "I'm a part of a classic car community on Facebook, so I get ads on Facebook for classic car things".

I think people would be less ok with "I played a game on my phone while standing in an auto shop. Now I'm getting car ads on my news site because game accessed my location, shared with facebook, who then shared with news site"

I don't know how to make these different use cases clear without having pages and pages of explanation that nobody will read.

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