I understand that the Google version of Prometheus is deprecated but there is no commercial equivalent.
Amazon Managed Service for Prometheus
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#52I very much dislike Prometheus, but the fact that AWS is offering it as a managed service means I am in the minority. I attribute much of Prometheus' success to the influence of ex-Googlers. They joined other companies, had a lot of clout, and sought out a tool that was similar to what they once used. I understand that the Google version of Prometheus is deprecated but there is no commercial equivalent.
Borgmon was inspiration for prometheus but was a totally different project so it is a complete rewrite
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#54I very much dislike Prometheus, but the fact that AWS is offering it as a managed service means I am in the minority. I attribute much of Prometheus' success to the influence of ex-Googlers. They joined other companies, had a lot of clout, and sought out a tool that was similar to what they once used. I understand that the Google version of Prometheus is deprecated but there is no commercial equivalent.
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#57The pricing just for the ingest seems way off. $0.002 for 10,000 metrics might not seem like much by even a simple node_exporter will grab 700 metrics every 15 seconds. Thats $24/month just to ingest the cpu/ram/diskspace data from each server. Plus storage and query costs. At work I have a single r4.xlarge instance handling 1.3 million metrics every 15 seconds. Storage is not clustered but cost is only $500/month. I…
Pricing makes sense if you consider how Amazon operates at this point. You put basically a MVP product out there with abnormal pricing. Your enterprise customers that are drowning in money can start using it and using that money you can grow your org by hiring more engineers. At this point you start working on adding new features and do cost optimization. Since your whole architecture was designed based on "we have t…
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of those who have spent their free time contributing to Linux distributions are why 'apt install' is easy. You can contribute too.
As the co-founder of Apache Java and a 20+ year member of the ASF, creator and contributor to hundreds of projects over the years, I think I've contributed enough of my time to OSS. I'm more than happy to let the new kids jump in. Thanks for the 'advice'.
Of a random sampling of install instructions for different ASF projects, the instructions generally are "1. Install java" then "2. Download this binary" and "3. Run the binary with java". Not quite 'apt install', is it?
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Victoria Metrics is an absolutely superb drop in replacement.
It's not a drop-in replacement (even though it tries to sell itself as such), it's incompatible in a significant number of ways and throws away part of your data.
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#60The pricing just for the ingest seems way off. $0.002 for 10,000 metrics might not seem like much by even a simple node_exporter will grab 700 metrics every 15 seconds. Thats $24/month just to ingest the cpu/ram/diskspace data from each server. Plus storage and query costs. At work I have a single r4.xlarge instance handling 1.3 million metrics every 15 seconds. Storage is not clustered but cost is only $500/month. I…
Their pricing for these managed services used to be "no brainer" (something like the cost of compute only, or maybe a <30% upcharge). Managed airflow was similarly very expensive (maybe 3x the cost). Just not worth it. Bummer.
One of my colleagues asked if it might be better than creating our own infrastructure for that. I ran the numbers for one of our recent jobs, feeding a million tweets to two ML models to see which worked better. That would have cost about $1800 on Huggingface. Using AWS spot instances, it was maybe $25 for us to run ourselves.
Of course, we can do it at that price because we are paying for engineers and plan on classifying enormous amounts of text, so it works out for us. Plenty of other people probably should just use Huggingface. But I can't help looking at that 70x markup and think, "Fuck me? No, fuck you!"