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Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by whatyesaid » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:41 AM UTC

AntiImperialist wrote: post #22

Isn't their selling point that you don't have to pay unless you get hired? I haven't read the fine print though.

The people doing such bootcamps are either going to try it, hate it and say bye; or they're going to be the type of people who are determined.

To quote the guy: "People in my cohort don't even understand basic Javascript and I'm not faring much better. I'm nowhere ready for a job. Now I have to find an education elsewhere and probably teach myself because now I don't trust bootcamps.

Also, I will have to pay it back...because I will get a job in tech and I will make at least 50k within 5 years. I'm not going to let the disappointment of Lambda stop me from doing so. It sucks that I will have to pay them even though they won't be the reason I get there and despite their misleading me and other students as to what their program contained."

Similar to the people getting hired at Google, Twilio, it's because they took the Bootcamp and a ton of self-study. The ton factor becomes lower if you go to a brick university that forces challenging material and theory.

Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by bko » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:43 AM UTC

thaumasiotes wrote: post #11

st1x7 wrote: post #8

People are paying ~$30k for bootcamps? Why not get a degree at that point?

What costs more, $30,000 and 6 months, or $30,000 and 48 months?

Average in-state tuition is ~6.5k a year

https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/state/

Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by dagw » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:45 AM UTC

lawn wrote: post #36

st1x7 wrote: post #8

People are paying ~$30k for bootcamps? Why not get a degree at that point?

Fun fact: $30k is almost exactly how much the Swedish student loan gives you for 5 years of full time study, which I used to pay for everything (housing, food, clothes, computers, books for school etc).

Your numbers are way out of date. If you start studying today you can expect to get about $45k in loans plus $20k in subsidies over 5 years, assuming you study full time and pass enough of your courses.

Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by ath92 » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:46 AM UTC

pram wrote: post #49

lawn wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: $30k is almost exactly how much the Swedish student loan gives you for 5 years of full time study, which I used to pay for everything (housing, food, clothes, computers, books for school etc).

$30k covered housing and food for 5 years? Seems like there has to be some other subsidy present you're not mentioning lol

Not sure about Sweden, but in Finland there is definitely some subsidised student housing. That said, as a student in the Netherlands I rented a room for 250 euros a month, so I think the 6k a year may not be that far off.

Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by unhammer » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:46 AM UTC

lawn wrote: post #36

st1x7 wrote: post #8

People are paying ~$30k for bootcamps? Why not get a degree at that point?

Fun fact: $30k is almost exactly how much the Swedish student loan gives you for 5 years of full time study, which I used to pay for everything (housing, food, clothes, computers, books for school etc).

https://www.csn.se/bidrag-och-lan/studiestod/studiemedel.htm... says Swedes can get 655.680 SEK (77.503 USD) for 240 weeks (5 student years?), and 198.720 SEK of it is a stipend (ie. only pay back 456.960 SEK).

Maybe it was less before?

Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by Legogris » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:47 AM UTC

codethief wrote: post #48

lawn wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: $30k is almost exactly how much the Swedish student loan gives you for 5 years of full time study, which I used to pay for everything (housing, food, clothes, computers, books for school etc).

You only needed $30k to survive for five years in Sweden ?

If you're able to score affordable housing (~$300/month is not uncommon for student accommodation and if sharing even $150~200 is not unheard of) it's not that much of a stretch. Also big difference between Stockholm (and to some extent Gothenburg) and the rest of the country in living costs.

Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by henye » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:49 AM UTC

pram wrote: post #49

lawn wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: $30k is almost exactly how much the Swedish student loan gives you for 5 years of full time study, which I used to pay for everything (housing, food, clothes, computers, books for school etc).

$30k covered housing and food for 5 years? Seems like there has to be some other subsidy present you're not mentioning lol

The author numbers are outdated. You can get up to $65k for 5 years of studies.

Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by meheleventyone » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:50 AM UTC

swyx wrote: post #13

there have been a few prominent criticisms of lambda school recently but it is all anecdotal and disorganized. closest in my mind was fulligin's takedown on NYMag ( https://vincentwoo.com/2020/05/19/on-lambda-school/ which found some bad facts but was sensationalized beyond proportion imo, still, make up your own mind) very hard to tell what specific allegations and changes have been made without also needing to ques…

The person details the issues here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LambdaSchool/comments/kb87od/lambda...

Looks like the entire course and support being paid for basically changed.

Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:50 AM UTC

codethief wrote: post #48

lawn wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: $30k is almost exactly how much the Swedish student loan gives you for 5 years of full time study, which I used to pay for everything (housing, food, clothes, computers, books for school etc).

You only needed $30k to survive for five years in Sweden ?

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Re: Lambda School is the biggest mistake I made this year

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Post by LeonidasXIV » Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:52 AM UTC

sivizius wrote: post #41

jcelerier wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get a degree for muuuuch less in europe. In france it'd be something like 1k€ at most over your whole post-high-school studies unless you go to specialized art school or something like that.

or Germany, where the only cost you might have is for the public transport ticket or something like that, and even this is often optional…I am actually curious why there are not so many students from the USA in German universities? Or is this due to language?

I assume this is because the US is not an EU member, so studying in Germany is not under the same conditions for them as for other EU members.

Also, Germany is somewhat difficult to navigate if you don't speak German, since you reach many roadblocks where people don't speak English (this is different in Denmark, but Denmark's nationalist party has abolished bachelor studies in English, so much for that).