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Right, and if you try to buy them all, it will cost a lot more than $2B.
Yes and no. > "try to buy them all" buy all of AWS's? Then: no, it would cost less. buy from open market? Then: yes, It would cost more
Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
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Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#52Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#53I’m more surprised that a single IP address is worth $20 apparently than Amazon owning 100 million of them. What I wonder, is it a competitive advantage for Amazon at this point that they have so many? Phrased differently, would it benefit Amazon if the current status quo of IPv4 vs IPv6 adoption is maintained?
I've seen some VM providers charge more to get an instance with IPv4 connectivity. Amazon doesn't charge extra for that (last I looked anyway), so that's a potential advantage. IPv6 penetration is growing, but Akamai reports that even the most IPv6 networks only go to ~ 92% IPv6. So if you want to have full reach, you need IPv4, but you don't really need IPv6 (although, you may want it, some of the CGNAT systems that…
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
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Yes, I think it would. Because despite the obvious business advantage they have, any would-be competitor would need IPs at a similar scale. That will either cost a ton more than Amazon has, or they simply won’t be available. I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing. Like digital real estate, without the fluctuation of crypto. But I would prefer it if IPv6 would take over IPv4, and fast, because it…
How do you own an IPv4 in perpetuity? Can they be bought in small scale, say 1-10?
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#55How are we not out of IPv4 addresses already? Aren't there a billion phones out there? And probably the same number of PCs and god knows how many servers?
Sadly this means that the poorer countries give the same IP to multiple users. I’ve received a “you’re doing that too much” error after the first google search of the day on my phone in South East Asia. I don’t remember which country
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#56How are we not out of IPv4 addresses already? Aren't there a billion phones out there? And probably the same number of PCs and god knows how many servers?
There is a lot of NAT going on these days, and a lot of shared addresses. All those devices aren't all online at the same time. As I see it, IPv6 can't come fast enough. NAT really needs to die a death so people can actually use the internet fully, not only as a client or using hack-y work-arounds.
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
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Yes, I think it would. Because despite the obvious business advantage they have, any would-be competitor would need IPs at a similar scale. That will either cost a ton more than Amazon has, or they simply won’t be available. I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing. Like digital real estate, without the fluctuation of crypto. But I would prefer it if IPv6 would take over IPv4, and fast, because it…
How do you own an IPv4 in perpetuity? Can they be bought in small scale, say 1-10?
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#58I’m more surprised that a single IP address is worth $20 apparently than Amazon owning 100 million of them. What I wonder, is it a competitive advantage for Amazon at this point that they have so many? Phrased differently, would it benefit Amazon if the current status quo of IPv4 vs IPv6 adoption is maintained?
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#59I’m more surprised that a single IP address is worth $20 apparently than Amazon owning 100 million of them. What I wonder, is it a competitive advantage for Amazon at this point that they have so many? Phrased differently, would it benefit Amazon if the current status quo of IPv4 vs IPv6 adoption is maintained?
Keep in mind contiguous IPv4 addresses are worth $20. One of the few examples of “the more of them you have for sale, the more they’re worth”
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I think it would. Because despite the obvious business advantage they have, any would-be competitor would need IPs at a similar scale. That will either cost a ton more than Amazon has, or they simply won’t be available. I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing. Like digital real estate, without the fluctuation of crypto. But I would prefer it if IPv6 would take over IPv4, and fast, because it…
How do you own an IPv4 in perpetuity? Can they be bought in small scale, say 1-10?