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Re: Google Storage Now Available To Developers

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Post by true_religion »

jggube wrote: post #44
gburt wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon wasn't the "startup" in his example. His point was the 5 year wait time for a "giant"* to get a product out the door... * who, even worse for their case, already had the infrastructure, resources, engineers, etc. to get it done.

The point still stands; this isn't an example of why startups shouldn't fear giants/incumbents. Just because Google couldn't/chose not to get a product like Amazon S3 out the door to compete with Amazon, doesn't mean incumbents can't replicate and dominate a bootstrapped start-up's low-cost, innovative web app or mobile app. The statement should say that startups with innovative, hard-to-reproduce products have nothi…

I'm trying to innovate in the same field that Bubbleshare was in. I only learned about them recently via reading old techcrunch posts. What killed them? Did they go through a prolonged period of difficulty?

Re: Google Storage Now Available To Developers

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Post by peteforde »

true_religion wrote: post #51
jggube wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point still stands; this isn't an example of why startups shouldn't fear giants/incumbents. Just because Google couldn't/chose not to get a product like Amazon S3 out the door to compete with Amazon, doesn't mean incumbents can't replicate and dominate a bootstrapped start-up's low-cost, innovative web app or mobile app. The statement should say that startups with innovative, hard-to-reproduce products have nothi…

I'm trying to innovate in the same field that Bubbleshare was in. I only learned about them recently via reading old techcrunch posts. What killed them? Did they go through a prolonged period of difficulty?

Founder greed and bad timing.

Re: Google Storage Now Available To Developers

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Post by peteforde »

The pricing is far less interesting to me than the differences between GS and S3. In some significant ways, GS appears to be a much more technically sophisticated product. And there are some arguably less used functionality like BitTorrent which are removed from the picture.

The ACL scheme is significantly more flexible on GS. In fact, one of the two major problems I have with S3 is a non-issue on GS:

1. All files on S3 are not world-readable when they are first uploaded. You cannot change the default permission for a file uploaded to a bucket. On GS you can set the default ACL on a bucket to world-readable.

2. For me, the most incredible thing GS could do right now is add a callback API. I want it to notify my application when my bucket is updated, webhooks style.

With both 1 & 2 in place, you can build storage driven applications in the cloud that don't require constant polling. Man, that would sure be something.

Re: Google Storage Now Available To Developers

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Post by true_religion »

peteforde wrote: post #52
true_religion wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm trying to innovate in the same field that Bubbleshare was in. I only learned about them recently via reading old techcrunch posts. What killed them? Did they go through a prolonged period of difficulty?

Founder greed and bad timing.

Ah can you elaborate please? To me it looks like Bubbleshare was the best thing ever---till it suddenly shut down.

I find glowing reports about it from TechCrunch, then.... nothing, it just dies.

So what happened?

Re: Google Storage Now Available To Developers

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Post by hartror »

dsl wrote: post #40
ceejayoz wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wish either one would support SSL for CNAMEd buckets.

That is a limitation of SSL. If you don't like it, ask your browser vendor to support section 3.1 of RFC 3546.

Shouldn't that be ask your user's browser vendor to support section 3.1 of RFC 3546?

Re: Google Storage Now Available To Developers

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Post by peteforde »

true_religion wrote: post #54
peteforde wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Founder greed and bad timing.

Ah can you elaborate please? To me it looks like Bubbleshare was the best thing ever---till it suddenly shut down. I find glowing reports about it from TechCrunch, then.... nothing, it just dies. So what happened?

Disclaimer: I was not involved, but several people that were are friends. These friends did not inform my answer here, which is just my opinion based on many sources.

BubbleShare was a Toronto tech darling started by the always brilliant Albert Lai. They were WAY ahead of their time.

All I'm comfortable sharing here is that they received buyout Offer A, which Albert rejected in favour of doubling down for a better deal. Unfortunately fortune did not smile and BubbleShare ultimately accepted Offer B, which was significantly smaller than Offer A.

The site was sold to Kaboose, which is a Canadian family content company. As usually happens when startups are acquired, the key talent left (Albert started Kontagent) and innovation on the site halted.

I'm not an analyst, but these things usually distill down to "too early / too early / too late". I'm not sure that people were ever lining up to pay them money to use the service, and that might give you pause before going down the same road. Many products are cool but aren't solving a problem causing paying customers real pain.

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