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At this age, you don't get admitted to an ICU bed
Of course they do, as long as there's a bed available. Especially with Covid. No hospital wants to be the one that denied a patient an available ICU bed.
First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK
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#52His high priority must've been on purpose, right?
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Helps to have no land borders, not saying Australia didn’t do a great job curbing it ..
Does it really? Has it been found that a significant source of infections was illegal immigration? Or that without it there would not have already been internal spreading?
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#54I live in India. I am already hearing companies offering planned month long vacation tours to UK/US where you could get yourself vaccinated with vaccines that aren't available in India.
That seems bizarre — you’re much more likely to be able to get it privately in India or Thailand or any other country that has good healthcare for the rich and few qualms about allowing people to buy in private stock. Much easier to pay $500 to a private clinic in Mumbai than fly to the West and hope that you can convince the state to provide it
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My casual understanding was that there werent really any asymptomatic spreaders, just "not symptomatic yet ". Is this wrong?
I'm not aware of stats relating to how many asymptomatic individuals go on to develop full blown symptomatic Covid-19. My assumption is that testing PCR positive while remaining asymptomatic the entire time is by far the most common experience. Of course, whether you go on to develop symptoms or not, its still highly pertinent information if asymptomatic spread is not a major driver of infection. As long as you self…
And the viral load is high two days before the symptoms onset. If you want a proper RCT about it, good luck approving it in an ethics committee.
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Yeah but for how long? Unless Australia is willing to keep screening all arrivals and containing outbreaks indefinitely, Covid is gonna start circulating there at some point.
They could make proof of vaccination an entry requirement. Combine that with widespread domestic vaccination and you've got a very good chance of containing any infections that make it into the country.
Those vaccinated, because they have less symptoms, less coughing basically, might not spread it around as much, but we don't know that yet. Remember asymptomatic spreading is a big concern for this virus.
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Australia doesn’t have it. Wasn’t impossible, just had to stop air travel and lockdown for a period. Now the only people with COVID are returned Australian travellers from overseas who have to go on hotel quarantine
Yeah but for how long? Unless Australia is willing to keep screening all arrivals and containing outbreaks indefinitely, Covid is gonna start circulating there at some point.
Sure covid will probably continue to exist, just like H1N1 exists
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All countries will have covid forever[0]: it's an endemic disease to nearly all continents now, much like the flu or aids. [0]for values of "forever" that don't go into the far future where viruses may have a cure or an effective form of erradication.
Australia doesn’t have it. Wasn’t impossible, just had to stop air travel and lockdown for a period. Now the only people with COVID are returned Australian travellers from overseas who have to go on hotel quarantine
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#59I feel like mRNA vaccines have huge potential, but I am really, really concerned about potential side effects. Does anyone know which other helper-substances are inside the vaccine, besides the RNA?
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#60A 90 year old woman in a nursing home is not spreading COVID. Wouldn't it make more sense to give this to people who are most at risk of spreading it, not dying from it? Why wouldn't we go at the root cause of the pandemic; young healthy asymptomatic spreaders?
2. By what mechanism do you imagine it got into the nursing home without that mechanism also working to spread it to outside?