Great news! Less so for Switzerland? Because this does not seem to apply to Switzerland, which has signed the EEA agreement, but did not join.
Messenger API Updates for Europe
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Do telcos in US/Europe create the same incumbency that telcos in Latin America create? Here in Mexico, any mobile data package comes with free data for blessed services like Whatsapp and FB Messenger. Obviously trying to compete with each other on these perks. Using a competitor like Telegram is a complete nonstarter when trading memes or video chat eats into your data. The cheapest plan from Telcel (pay-as-you-go +…
In Sweden they do not do that for messenger clients but they do it for video streaming sites. Data is so cheap here that a messenger would not be a good selling point. It is probably illegal (on the paper we have net neutrality, the telcos just blatantly break the law) to do so in Sweden which why some telcos are in a legal battle with our regulatory authority.
While useful to people, most of whom want to just go to Netflix, that level of integration doesn't feel right.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do telcos in US/Europe create the same incumbency that telcos in Latin America create? Here in Mexico, any mobile data package comes with free data for blessed services like Whatsapp and FB Messenger. Obviously trying to compete with each other on these perks. Using a competitor like Telegram is a complete nonstarter when trading memes or video chat eats into your data. The cheapest plan from Telcel (pay-as-you-go +…
In Sweden they do not do that for messenger clients but they do it for video streaming sites. Data is so cheap here that a messenger would not be a good selling point. It is probably illegal (on the paper we have net neutrality, the telcos just blatantly break the law) to do so in Sweden which why some telcos are in a legal battle with our regulatory authority.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t see FB shutting down a service like Watsapp in Europe in the next decade at least, first of all because countless European politicians use it, to say nothing of the hundreds of millions of Europeans who use it regularly. There’s nothing else comparable that can take its place.
Telegram? Signal? Viber? Matrix? I feel like all of these apps (with special emphasis on Telegram and Signal) have almost the exact same UX and features of WhatsApp... beyond adoption numbers. Surely one of these can take its place?
[1] https://matrix.org/blog/2018/04/26/matrix-and-riot-confirmed...
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#57So instead of making their system less-privacy-invasive (which I have seen no indication should be impossible wrt the APIs mentioned here), they just shut down services where this is regulated. Not surprised, but there's no way to spin this in a way that doesn't make Facebook look shady and bad. So much for "working with regulators".
To honest, I think this is probably the begining of the end for Facebook. I foresee that they'll be forced to reduce services in Europe repeatedly. It'll be interesting to see what takes its place.
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#58We need a decent gdpr compliant business dependable rich messaging platform for europe. it is ridiculous, now the rest of the world has wechat, messenger, kakao and line, but in europe there is nothing.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Sweden they do not do that for messenger clients but they do it for video streaming sites. Data is so cheap here that a messenger would not be a good selling point. It is probably illegal (on the paper we have net neutrality, the telcos just blatantly break the law) to do so in Sweden which why some telcos are in a legal battle with our regulatory authority.
It’s not illegal if you get user consent. I signed up (in Sweden) for a mobile contract with free Apple Music data last year, and they made a big thing of getting consent for them to do DPI to get that.
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#60But seriously, if anyone had doubts what GDPR will achieve, I think this person is pretty naive. GDPR is not a progression, but a regression, and it will seriously hit (already does) online businesses in the long run.
Same thing with cookie warnings. No normal person will read tons of legal text on every website they visit. And even if the normal person will read it, they won't be able to decline the cookies, because the site will not work. But let's say you're a technically savvy person that is actually interested in cookie privacy; I'm really surprised you're not using "cookie autodelete"-style plugins already.
Creating laws only to have laws will never work. It only creates cost for everyone in order to be compliant. And people always go where the cost is lower.