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PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by Ardon »

jsperson wrote: post #35
goda90 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got the pinebook pro. If you want something that "just works", it's not quite there. The community is constantly working on it though. I think with full driver support it can be a great little machine.

Agreed, and will add that the trackpad on the PBP is terrible. The keyboard is barely acceptable. For real work I’d pick something else.

I'd definitely consider the trackpad terrible on my Pinebook Pro, but I'm surprised to hear you find the keyboard barely accepable, I thoroughly enjoy it.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by avery42 »

agilob wrote: post #31

What with app development? Can I use Dart/Flutter there? What tools are used for app development? Is there a compatibility layer or something similar to adb?

Like other commenters said, it's just Linux so you can do pretty much anything.

For Qt, the current stack seems to be Kirigami, which is KDE's library for convergent apps. There's also the Mauikit framework, which is built on top of Kirigami (I don't know enough to know the exact differences).

For Gtk, it's libhandy, which adds a few widgets for convergent apps.

It looks like Flutter doesn't support ARM yet, I found this after a quick search: https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/60678

There's also a few Electron/Webkit-based apps (especially for UBPorts), which is a nice temporary solution to get an app on the device while there isn't yet a native equivalent.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by avery42 »

p4bl0 wrote: post #23

Is is able to run Android apps? Like Signal for example? Or maybe the Signal desktop app works?

Yes, Anbox is working pretty well on Arch Linux ARM [0][1], although I haven't tried Signal specifically.

[0] https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/releases

[1] https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/wiki/Anbox

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by stinkytaco »

seniorivn wrote: post #46
swiley wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a landline when I switched to the pinephone and set it up to ring both. I do miss MMS messages but people who really need to get to me call or email me.

did you use mms in 2019-2020? where are you?

If you're in the US, you are using MMS in 2020.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by xyquadrat »

goffi wrote: post #47
netol wrote: post #4

I can't believe KDE can be run in a phone, when I tried to run KDE in my desktop it always felt sluggish and unstable

I'm using KDE for years, and it's a great collection of software. The main issue I have about performances is Akonadi, it's eating CPU, memory and lot of disk space (and I have disabled files indexing in settings, as I don't need it, so I don't get why it's taking GiO), so I often just kill the server and it works well after that. By the way, does anybody know a method to disable it cleanly, or at least make it for r…

It seems like you are confusing two pieces of software: There is Baloo, which is the KDE file indexer. And then there is Akonadi, which is the storage service for all PIM related things (so emails, contacts, calendars etc.). If you disabled Baloo in the settings it should not show up as a process anymore and certainly shouldn't be using any system resources.

Akonadi is required for the usage of KMail, KOrganizer and such (because they use it to store their data, so that is rather essential). If you don't use those applications, you can simply remove it with your package manager. Otherwise we'd appreciate a bug report with regards to the high CPU / memory usage on bugs.kde.org. Thank you for using KDE software :)

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by branon »

Ardon wrote: post #51
jsperson wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, and will add that the trackpad on the PBP is terrible. The keyboard is barely acceptable. For real work I’d pick something else.

I'd definitely consider the trackpad terrible on my Pinebook Pro, but I'm surprised to hear you find the keyboard barely accepable, I thoroughly enjoy it.

Pinebook Pro user here, trackpad is indeed terrible, I thought the keyboard was great though.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by LeonM »

Does anyone here have experience with actually using the pinephone as a daily driver?

I know plenty of people that ordered one, but they are all laying on a drawer somewhere with the intention to play with it a bit. Basically how most RPi's end up.

Just curious if this phone is actually competitive with android devices in the same price class.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by enos_feedler »

oriesdan wrote: post #9

For the record, I received yesterday the new mainboard that will be in those phones to replace the one of my pinephone UBport edition. The boost in RAM (3gb instead of 2gb) does the trick for me, allowing to use firefox. Not to the point that the experience is even close to android, but at least usable (before that, I used elinks on the phone). The system I use (mobian/phosh) still feels sluggish, but I suspect it's…

I’ve been using Mobian on the UBport edition for the last month. Sluggish doesn’t even describe the usability.

I bought a few data only sims in hopes of leaving the house for short errands with different devices. There is no way I could leave the house with the pinephone. It isn’t usable yet. Could an extra gig of RAM solve this? It seems like it needs years of work.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by goffi »

xyquadrat wrote: post #56
goffi wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using KDE for years, and it's a great collection of software. The main issue I have about performances is Akonadi, it's eating CPU, memory and lot of disk space (and I have disabled files indexing in settings, as I don't need it, so I don't get why it's taking GiO), so I often just kill the server and it works well after that. By the way, does anybody know a method to disable it cleanly, or at least make it for r…

It seems like you are confusing two pieces of software: There is Baloo, which is the KDE file indexer. And then there is Akonadi, which is the storage service for all PIM related things (so emails, contacts, calendars etc.). If you disabled Baloo in the settings it should not show up as a process anymore and certainly shouldn't be using any system resources. Akonadi is required for the usage of KMail, KOrganizer and…

> It seems like you are confusing two pieces of software: There is Baloo, which is the KDE file indexer. And then there is Akonadi,

Oh right, seeing those Gio in my ~/.local/share/akonadi, I was supposing that it was for file indexing and that was somehow the storage for Baloo or something like that.

I haven't investigated more than that as I don't want to spend too much time on it and just killing Akonadi server from its console is enough (the downside is that after killing it I can't use KMail anymore, which otherwise is a really great MUA).

So maybe it has something to do with my email settings then? I'll try to find time to investigate and check if I haven't activated anything like offline storage, otherwise I'll create a bug report.

Anyway thanks for the great work over the years, beside this little issue, KDE works flawlessly and I like to be able to customize just what I need when I need.

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