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Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by qz2 »

ramblerman wrote: post #35
qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

There is more than one road to rome. And if he sticks with his plan it will work. Of course the only thing that matters is calories in, but that doesn't mean it's a valuable instruction for most people.

This is a stupid road though. Sorry but it is.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by throwaway201103 »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #16
qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

> do exercise Exercise does nothing in losing weight. (If you've seen the people doing physical labor for 10 hours a day, you know they're not necessarily thin.)

Of course it does. Or I should say it can. It's burning calories. If calories in are less than calories used, you lose weight. What is true is that it's very easy to eat more calories than you can practically hope to burn off by exercise. The people doing physical labor for 10 hours a day who are still fat are probably eating Big Macs, Fries, and 48oz cokes for lunch and having 3-6 beers after work.

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Post by mellosouls »

Worth remembering Penn Jillette used to be a champion for obesity and not taking responsibility for yourself - I'm thinking particularly of the "Bullshit" episode where he attempted to corral science into justifying his own condition, undermining the whole premise of the series.

Perhaps he has issued a mea culpa.

As he himself says though, this is not a man to follow on this subject.

Best wishes to the author here though; moderation and discipline over the long term will be key.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by Mashimo »

stevebmark wrote: post #12

If he sticks with it, it's going to work. All starch diets bring people to healthy weights. I've been doing (mostly) ketosis for years and I still know his all potato diet can work for weight loss. It's just going to be a very… tasteless… few weeks/months. Your poop is going to be unpleasant too. It's always interesting to me that people can succeed on extreme diets like this rather than adjust their lifestyles to wh…

> . No salt / olive oil on the potatoes is off base too, there's no reason the diet needs to be that boring.

I think that is the idea. If it's boring you don't over eat that much.

Also if you eat different things people can eat more. Can't eat any more fries? Most people can fit in some ice cream.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by paxys »

"This guy is stupid for trying something that works for him. Instead he should do what worked for me." - this entire thread.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by aogaili »

stevebmark wrote: post #18
aogaili wrote: post #4

This won't work very effectively. Your best bet is to fast (water fast) for as long as you can, if you can't then add protein (not carbs). Potatoes is very rich in carbs, your body won't go to ketosis (using fat as fuel) thus you won't see much impact. I also recommend getting smart meter and measure your fat percentage daily so you can tune your diet.

Yes, it will work effectively. Thinking that entering ketosis is the only way to lose weight effectively is dogmatic (and I'm very into keto).

How else would you lose stored fat if you don't burn it?

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by marsvin »

Glad he stocked some sweet potatoes, too. At least a tiny change in flavour compared to common potatoes.

I have to admit I'd rather stick with normal diet. Just recude the intake or increase the consumption.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by paxys »

renewiltord wrote: post #22
qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

> If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. Well, that's the catch, isn't it? The meta-technique is where the problem is. "Study hard for the exam. If you can't study, that's the problem". Useless advice to the guy addicted to games. And we know one true answer for effective weight loss: pharmaceuticals. Ludicrous success rate. All of this other stuff is slow. Cheat. Life's too short to play fair.

If there was truly a safe and effective pharmaceutical remedy for weight loss whoever made it would be the biggest company in the world right now.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by mikenew »

This diet is stupid. Objectively. But honestly... I feel like many people (myself included) who eventually ended up with healthy eating patterns actually started out with something stupid.

I really do think some people can mentally handle an "extreme" diet more easily than a moderate adjustment. It's just more exciting I guess. And the weirdness of it makes it feel like you've discovered some secret that nobody else knows. In the end, just realizing that you can in fact change your bodyweight is a huge mental win. And as long as you transition into something less stupid after a month or two, I think the net benefit can actually be very positive.

...but seriously; of the three macronutrients, carbs are the only one you don't need to stay alive. It's fine for a while, but I just don't get why if you're going to cut calories to below 1k per day you wouln't instead eat some fats and protein. When you realize that a good part of your weight loss is muscle mass disappearing the whole thing gets a lot less exciting.

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