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Lufthansa trialing lie-flat Economy seat concept

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Re: Lufthansa trialing lie-flat Economy seat concept

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Post by dzhiurgis »

iguy wrote: post #43
telesilla wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Air New Zealand is trialing this. I guess for a country with such distances to anywhere, not surprising they are pioneers in flight comfort. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/26/lie-flat-beds-...

But it seems like this is in addition to a seat, not instead: > “The concept is designed as a pod you go to during the flight,” she said. “You will still have your economy seat separately for the other portion of the flight.” Which of course avoids all the regulatory problems of evacuation during landing, etc. But also must make it expensive -- if you are buying twice the floor area, then you could have a business cl…

On long distance flights weight becomes bigger problem than volume. Singapore airlines 20 hr flight has no economy at all and I presume volumes of space in cargo area.

That said seats that can fold into three level bunks could be possible, but airline has no incentive to make cheaper business class. It’s their best interest to make economy as bad as legally possible to force you into upgrade.

Re: Lufthansa trialing lie-flat Economy seat concept

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Post by dzhiurgis »

dnhz wrote: post #32

For $260, you can experience what it would be like to sleep on a park bench while 36,000 feet in the air.

Sleeping on the floor sounds better. That’s what my mate apparently does if it’s only 2 passengers.

You need to be on fairly bad airline tho where stewardess don’t care.

Re: Lufthansa trialing lie-flat Economy seat concept

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Post by nojvek »

Last we had a 2 year old. We bought two adult seats and a child seat. The bet was that no one would want to be close to a wailing baby and we’d get the 4th seat. The bet panned out and we got all 4 seats.

Baby had fun being comfy and being able to sleep flat.

Business is way too expensive. Regular seat is $1.5k from Seattle to Dubai, Business/First is like $10k. Insane. I’d happily pay $3k for comfort of two seats and be able to sleep.

Our journey from SEA -> NBO is 30hrs minimium with at-least one leg.

Re: Lufthansa trialing lie-flat Economy seat concept

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Post by reustle »

Cantbekhan wrote: post #7

So this means that if the plane is empty they'll now forbid passengers from using 3 seats and ask them to pay instead?

I've been on two 13+ hour flights this year and both times the plane was nearly empty. 20-30 people for an entire dreamliner. We each had about 4-6 rows in between us, and of course everyone was laying down to sleep. I sure hope they don't try to push you to sit up in this case.

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Post by ac42 »

howlgarnish wrote: post #18

I'm still waiting for an airline to roll out proper lie-flat seating in Economy, like couchette/sleeper trains: just stack three bunk beds on top of each other. Unfortunately safety regulations make it difficult if not impossible to implement this, and prohibitively expensive for an airline to even try.

I had an economy row on intercontinental flights for myself a couple of times (back in 2009 during the financial crisis, when flights were routinely half empty). It definitely helps, but you can't fully stretch out if you are taller than 5ft and it doesn't compete with business class.

Re: Lufthansa trialing lie-flat Economy seat concept

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Post by [deleted] »

suncherta wrote: post #15
Cantbekhan wrote: post #7

So this means that if the plane is empty they'll now forbid passengers from using 3 seats and ask them to pay instead?

More likely, now it is not going to be a pure luck to find yourself in the position where you are sitting along in 3 seats, but you will need to pay for this privilege + as a bonus you get pillow and blanket.

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Re: Lufthansa trialing lie-flat Economy seat concept

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Post by tehwebguy »

thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #30
tehwebguy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. If the head rests in particular were concave and could lean back a tiny bit to where my head would not roll onto my neighbor / the aisle / smack the side of the plane I’d be able to sleep on every flight.

I believe the sides of most headrests can be pulled forward.

Yes, but the mechanism is not strong enough to stay put on US economy planes
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